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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: [Productivity] Level 1 - Start from scratch

by alessio.soldano＠jboss.com

Hi Ole, "omatzura" wrote : Maybe one could also provide soapUI projects/testsuites/testcases for all these samples (once we get the soapui-plugin back in the build)? [...] As far as I can see your ws plugin in JBossIDE / JBossTools might play an important role in this productivity strategy we're trying to figure out. We, as JBossWS team, could endorse it for the IDE tooling aspect of this productivity strategy, also contributing with requirements, jira issues and so on. For the time being we think that having the plugin support our JAX-WS tools would be really great and the most important thing to start with. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095652#4095652 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095652

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: [Productivity] Level 2 - Development

by richard.opalka＠jboss.com

"alessio.soldano(a)jboss.com" wrote : | At the same time, we might focus on tools supporting the development phase of webservices. I'm thinking about a way to easily generate tests (JUnit or TestNG) for the users' services in a given project as far as an Eclipse project configuration with an Ant build file to run them all. | It would be nice if our eclipse configuration would work this way: 1) User will define env. variables such as ANT_HOME, JAVA_HOME, JBOSS_HOME, etc. in its shell environment 2) User will import preconfigured eclipse project that will use these env. variables for classpath, sourcepath and other definitions View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095565#4095565 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095565

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: [Productivity] Level 1 - Start from scratch

by richard.opalka＠jboss.com

"alessio.soldano(a)jboss.com" wrote : | Regarding the IDE setup, we might provide a basic Eclipse project configuration that users might use as a starting point for each of their ws-enabled projects. I agree. When we write the JBossWS test we're always doing the same things. If we would provide eclipse project configuration it would help us too. And as bonus, when we'll use these preconfigured configurations we'll test them too. This is a good idea. "alessio.soldano(a)jboss.com" wrote : | Otherwise we could create a simple presentation / movie showing users how to setup the environment the right way. This is the NICE feature for us, but not SHOULD or MUST. "alessio.soldano(a)jboss.com" wrote : We might also ask the Red Hat Developer Studio team to support the latest jbossws features (at least the wsprovide and wsconsume tools). RHDS is based on JBoss IDE so our eclipse configurations should work there too ;-) "alessio.soldano(a)jboss.com" wrote : | Then we should link the documentation and the samples more tightly. This means that most of the samples and tests will be enriched with a brief description (a scenario) in the documentation. Then wherever the documentation covers a particular feature backed up by a sample or test case, there will be a link to the test-suite. Finally we could make the test-suite run easier providing an Eclipse project configuration with the tests only and a simplified Ant script to run each of them. No comment on this. I fully agree. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095563#4095563 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095563

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: [Productivity] Level 0 - WS Culture

by alessio.soldano＠jboss.com

Yes, may be. I mean, I think our documentation lacks this and we should somehow have the user acquire this knowledge in the right way. Our wiki is suitable for this kind of communication and we could nevertheless cite or link WikiPedia if it 100% suits what we need. WikiPedia has good contents and will of course be useful, we just need to give the right direction, to draw our "official" line. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095499#4095499 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095499

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jbossws waiting for a jbossxb update

by Thomas Diesler

Folks, FYI we are currently waiting for a jbossxb update both in AS42 and AS50 Failed to create a new SAX parser http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBWS-1852 jbossxb-1.0.0.GA shows webservice regression http://jira.jboss.org/jira/browse/JBAS-4853 I disabled the wsprovide step in the test build. You therefore see failures in wssecurity http://jbws.dyndns.org:8180/hudson/job/Core-Tests-AS-4.2/lastBuild/testRe... cheers -thomas -- xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Thomas Diesler Web Service Lead JBoss, a division of Red Hat xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: [Productivity] Level 0 - WS Culture

by richard.opalka＠jboss.com

"alessio.soldano(a)jboss.com" wrote : Our goal here is only to have the reader understand the fundamentals she can't miss about the webservices and their aims (interoperability etc.) | Sounds like a WikiPedia to me ;-) Richard View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095263#4095263 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095263

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: [Productivity] Level 0 - WS Culture

by alessio.soldano＠jboss.com

"heiko.braun(a)jboss.com" wrote : anonymous wrote : terminology and related technologies (WSDL, SOAP, etc) | | IMO people should get to know as much as necessary, but as little as possible. I would confront them with all those acronyms in the first, but talk about contract, payload and endpoint for instance. It will break down to the details soon enough in the subsequent levels. | | The poster is nice, but useless for beginners. Yes, I agree with you. For instance, when I wrote about the terminology I was thinking about something like -of course I'm over simplifying here- "ok, the service provider publish a service contract describing what it can do; this is written in WSDL, etc". Then we could point to specific resources going deep in details (either on our wiki or external), but the high level view I would provide should be... very high level ;-) Our goal here is only to have the reader understand the fundamentals things she can't miss about the webservices and their aims (interoperability etc.) This said, yes, the poster gives a nice view of standards showing how they might be organized (it's now on my desktop ;-) ) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095254#4095254 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095254

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: [Productivity] Level 2 - Development

by alessio.soldano＠jboss.com

What are we going to do? Speaking of samples, we think to provide meaningful advanced samples. These might cover the testcases I spoke about in the productivity introduction http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=121127, supporting tutorials in the documentation on advanced topics like security, attachments, addressing, etc. At the same time, we might focus on tools supporting the development phase of webservices. I'm thinking about a way to easily generate tests (JUnit or TestNG) for the users' services in a given project as far as an Eclipse project configuration with an Ant build file to run them all. As always... comments are welcome ;-) View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095242#4095242 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095242

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - [Productivity] Level 2 - Development

by alessio.soldano＠jboss.com

This thread is about the third level of productivity efforts we're thinking about. Please refer to this http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&t=121127 for a topic introduction. Once users have a productive environment set up, they can start coping with their own business problems. Real world issues are usually more complex than our current samples. Thus here our productivity strategy should mainly focus on samples and tutorials based on real world use cases. View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095239#4095239 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095239

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[Design of JBoss Web Services] - Re: [Productivity] Level 0 - WS Culture

by heiko.braun＠jboss.com

I was going to say: "I would not confront" them with acronyms... View the original post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=viewtopic&p=4095235#4095235 Reply to the post : http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb&op=posting&mode=reply&p=4095235

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