6:32 a.m.
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Hi Seam devs,
I committed a new documentation chapter into SVN -
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_3/seam-refe....
This is for Seam 2.2 to 2.3 migration
Could you review it, please? /attached is generated PDF.
It is not too long and it should cover all important points/steps which
is required for using Seam 2.3.0.Final if you already have existing Seam
2.2 application.
Cheers,
- --
Marek Novotny
- --
WFK and Seam Product Lead
Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
Purkynova 99
612 45 Brno
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New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
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I have mangled a little the $SUBJECT with my previous email :-/
one additional note - migration guide is chapter 4
On 18.9.2012 13:32, Marek Novotny wrote:
Hi Seam devs,
I committed a new documentation chapter into SVN -
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_3/seam-refe....
This is for Seam 2.2 to 2.3 migration
Could you review it, please? /attached is generated PDF.
It is not too long and it should cover all important points/steps which
is required for using Seam 2.3.0.Final if you already have existing Seam
2.2 application.
Cheers,
--
Marek Novotny
--
WFK and Seam Product Lead
Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
Purkynova 99
612 45 Brno
_______________________________________________
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seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
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Marek Novotny
- --
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Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
Purkynova 99
612 45 Brno
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5:12 p.m.
New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
I like what's here, however, I am afraid that it makes the migration look
too easy. By far the largest chunk is going to be migrating to JSF 2. No
matter which component suite you use there isn't one (that I'm aware of)
that can be used on JSF 1.x and 2.x.
Components will be renamed or replaced, layouts may change, etc. At the
very least we should probably tell people to look for a migration guide for
the component suite they're using.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Marek Novotny <mnovotny(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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I have mangled a little the $SUBJECT with my previous email :-/
one additional note - migration guide is chapter 4
On 18.9.2012 13:32, Marek Novotny wrote:
> Hi Seam devs,
>
> I committed a new documentation chapter into SVN -
>
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_3/seam-refe...
.
> This is for Seam 2.2 to 2.3 migration
>
> Could you review it, please? /attached is generated PDF.
>
> It is not too long and it should cover all important points/steps which
> is required for using Seam 2.3.0.Final if you already have existing Seam
> 2.2 application.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Marek Novotny
> --
> WFK and Seam Product Lead
>
> Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
> Purkynova 99
> 612 45 Brno
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> seam-dev mailing list
> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>
- --
Marek Novotny
- --
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Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
Purkynova 99
612 45 Brno
--
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http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com
http://twitter.com/lightguardjp
Software Engineer
Open Source Advocate
Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception Handling
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9:04 p.m.
New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
Simple question, can one choose not to upgrade to JSF 2 but still upgrade
to Seam 2.3?
As Jason pointed out, that seemed the most problematic part of the
migration.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp(a)gmail.com>wrote:
I like what's here, however, I am afraid that it makes the
migration look
too easy. By far the largest chunk is going to be migrating to JSF 2. No
matter which component suite you use there isn't one (that I'm aware of)
that can be used on JSF 1.x and 2.x.
Components will be renamed or replaced, layouts may change, etc. At the
very least we should probably tell people to look for a migration guide for
the component suite they're using.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Marek Novotny <mnovotny(a)redhat.com>wrote:
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> I have mangled a little the $SUBJECT with my previous email :-/
>
> one additional note - migration guide is chapter 4
>
> On 18.9.2012 13:32, Marek Novotny wrote:
> > Hi Seam devs,
> >
> > I committed a new documentation chapter into SVN -
> >
>
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_3/seam-refe...
> .
> > This is for Seam 2.2 to 2.3 migration
> >
> > Could you review it, please? /attached is generated PDF.
> >
> > It is not too long and it should cover all important points/steps which
> > is required for using Seam 2.3.0.Final if you already have existing Seam
> > 2.2 application.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Marek Novotny
> > --
> > WFK and Seam Product Lead
> >
> > Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
> > Purkynova 99
> > 612 45 Brno
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > seam-dev mailing list
> > seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
> >
>
> - --
> Marek Novotny
> - --
> WFK and Seam Product Lead
>
> Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
> Purkynova 99
> 612 45 Brno
--
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9:37 p.m.
New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
I'm pretty sure an upgrade to Seam 2.3 is also an upgrade to JSF2. I know some of the
bugs that were fixed for CR required JSF2.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 18, 2012, at 20:04, Flavio Costa <flavio.cdc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Simple question, can one choose not to upgrade to JSF 2 but still
upgrade to Seam 2.3?
As Jason pointed out, that seemed the most problematic part of the migration.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I like what's here, however, I am afraid that it makes the migration look too easy.
By far the largest chunk is going to be migrating to JSF 2. No matter which component
suite you use there isn't one (that I'm aware of) that can be used on JSF 1.x and
2.x.
Components will be renamed or replaced, layouts may change, etc. At the very least we
should probably tell people to look for a migration guide for the component suite
they're using.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Marek Novotny <mnovotny(a)redhat.com> wrote:
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I have mangled a little the $SUBJECT with my previous email :-/
one additional note - migration guide is chapter 4
On 18.9.2012 13:32, Marek Novotny wrote:
> Hi Seam devs,
>
> I committed a new documentation chapter into SVN -
>
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_3/seam-refe....
> This is for Seam 2.2 to 2.3 migration
>
> Could you review it, please? /attached is generated PDF.
>
> It is not too long and it should cover all important points/steps which
> is required for using Seam 2.3.0.Final if you already have existing Seam
> 2.2 application.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Marek Novotny
> --
> WFK and Seam Product Lead
>
> Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
> Purkynova 99
> 612 45 Brno
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> seam-dev mailing list
> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>
- --
Marek Novotny
- --
WFK and Seam Product Lead
Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
Purkynova 99
612 45 Brno
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3:19 a.m.
New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
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Yes, majority of bugs are for upgrading to JSF2, EJB 3.1 and running on
JBoss AS 7.x.
There are minority number of bugs from previous 2.x versions.
On 19.9.2012 04:37, Jason Porter wrote:
I'm pretty sure an upgrade to Seam 2.3 is also an upgrade to
JSF2. I
know some of the bugs that were fixed for CR required JSF2.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 18, 2012, at 20:04, Flavio Costa <flavio.cdc(a)gmail.com
<mailto:flavio.cdc@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Simple question, can one choose not to upgrade to JSF 2 but still
> upgrade to Seam 2.3?
>
> As Jason pointed out, that seemed the most problematic part of the
> migration.
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp(a)gmail.com
> <mailto:lightguard.jp@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I like what's here, however, I am afraid that it makes the
> migration look too easy. By far the largest chunk is going to be
> migrating to JSF 2. No matter which component suite you use there
> isn't one (that I'm aware of) that can be used on JSF 1.x and 2.x.
>
> Components will be renamed or replaced, layouts may change, etc.
> At the very least we should probably tell people to look for a
> migration guide for the component suite they're using.
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Marek Novotny
> <mnovotny(a)redhat.com <mailto:mnovotny@redhat.com>> wrote:
>
I have mangled a little the $SUBJECT with my previous email :-/
one additional note - migration guide is chapter 4
On 18.9.2012 13:32, Marek Novotny wrote:
> Hi Seam devs,
> I committed a new documentation chapter into SVN -
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_3/seam-refe....
> This is for Seam 2.2 to 2.3 migration
> Could you review it, please? /attached is generated PDF.
> It is not too long and it should cover all important
points/steps which
> is required for using Seam 2.3.0.Final if you already have
existing Seam
> 2.2 application.
> Cheers,
> --
> Marek Novotny
> --
> WFK and Seam Product Lead
> Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
> Purkynova 99
> 612 45 Brno
> _______________________________________________
> seam-dev mailing list
> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org>
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
--
Marek Novotny
--
WFK and Seam Product Lead
Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
Purkynova 99
612 45 Brno
> _______________________________________________
> seam-dev mailing list
> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org>
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>
>
>
>
> --
> Jason Porter
> http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com
> http://twitter.com/lightguardjp
>
> Software Engineer
> Open Source Advocate
> Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception Handling
>
> PGP key id: 926CCFF5
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> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
>
>
>
>
> --
> Flávio Coutinho da Costa
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Marek Novotny
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WFK and Seam Product Lead
Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
Purkynova 99
612 45 Brno
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3:17 a.m.
New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
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On 19.9.2012 04:04, Flavio Costa wrote:
Simple question, can one choose not to upgrade to JSF 2 but still
upgrade to Seam 2.3?
No, that is not an option. Seam 2.3.x is about upgrade of parts of Java
EE5 to EE6.
If you want to use JSF1.2 you should stay still on Seam 2.2.x.
As Jason pointed out, that seemed the most problematic part of the
migration.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Jason Porter <lightguard.jp(a)gmail.com
<mailto:lightguard.jp@gmail.com>> wrote:
I like what's here, however, I am afraid that it makes the migration
look too easy. By far the largest chunk is going to be migrating to
JSF 2. No matter which component suite you use there isn't one (that
I'm aware of) that can be used on JSF 1.x and 2.x.
Components will be renamed or replaced, layouts may change, etc. At
the very least we should probably tell people to look for a
migration guide for the component suite they're using.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Marek Novotny <mnovotny(a)redhat.com
<mailto:mnovotny@redhat.com>> wrote:
I have mangled a little the $SUBJECT with my previous email :-/
one additional note - migration guide is chapter 4
On 18.9.2012 13:32, Marek Novotny wrote:
> Hi Seam devs,
> I committed a new documentation chapter into SVN -
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_3/seam-refe....
> This is for Seam 2.2 to 2.3 migration
> Could you review it, please? /attached is generated PDF.
> It is not too long and it should cover all important
points/steps which
> is required for using Seam 2.3.0.Final if you already have
existing Seam
> 2.2 application.
> Cheers,
> --
> Marek Novotny
> --
> WFK and Seam Product Lead
> Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
> Purkynova 99
> 612 45 Brno
> _______________________________________________
> seam-dev mailing list
> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org>
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
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612 45 Brno
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3:13 a.m.
New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
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On 19.9.2012 00:12, Jason Porter wrote:
I like what's here, however, I am afraid that it makes the
migration
look too easy. By far the largest chunk is going to be migrating to JSF
2. No matter which component suite you use there isn't one (that I'm
aware of) that can be used on JSF 1.x and 2.x.
I think the migration is not too tough, as we did these migration steps
in Seam examples included in Seam distribution. The painful is JSF 2
component libraries like Richfaces 3.3->4.x migration or Icefaces 1.x ->
3.x. And the latter is not really prepared Seam 2.3 as it is described
in https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBSEAM-5022, which is regression from
Icefaces 1.6.
Components will be renamed or replaced, layouts may change, etc. At the
very least we should probably tell people to look for a migration guide
for the component suite they're using.
I think that I am trying to say in
section 4.2.2
<blockquote>
Depending on what JSF components that you use like Richfaces or
Icefaces, there may be some differences when upgrading from JSF 1.x to
JSF 2.x. You may need to upgrade libraries entirely. Consult any
component framework documentation on those changes. This migration
doesn't cover these migration steps.
</blockquote>
I will change
"You may need to upgrade libraries entirely."
to
"You have to need to upgrade libraries entirely."
If you think we need enhance this paragraph more, I am open to
suggestion ;-).
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 6:11 AM, Marek Novotny <mnovotny(a)redhat.com
<mailto:mnovotny@redhat.com>> wrote:
I have mangled a little the $SUBJECT with my previous email :-/
one additional note - migration guide is chapter 4
On 18.9.2012 13:32, Marek Novotny wrote:
> Hi Seam devs,
> I committed a new documentation chapter into SVN -
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/seam/branches/community/Seam_2_3/seam-refe....
> This is for Seam 2.2 to 2.3 migration
> Could you review it, please? /attached is generated PDF.
> It is not too long and it should cover all important points/steps
which
> is required for using Seam 2.3.0.Final if you already have
existing Seam
> 2.2 application.
> Cheers,
> --
> Marek Novotny
> --
> WFK and Seam Product Lead
> Red Hat Czech s.r.o.
> Purkynova 99
> 612 45 Brno
> _______________________________________________
> seam-dev mailing list
> seam-dev(a)lists.jboss.org <mailto:seam-dev@lists.jboss.org>
> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/seam-dev
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612 45 Brno
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9:50 a.m.
New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
<!--
By far the largest chunk is going to be migrating to JSF 2
-->
And by far, the greatest opportunity for advancing your Seam 2.2 applications into the
future. Finally, a migration path to JSF 2 is available without a huge rewrite. IE 9
problems relating to old Richfaces libraries can be attended to (instead of just patched).
I am so looking forward to moving out of Richfaces 3.3 into 4+, as well as leveraging the
JSF 2 enhanced templating features, so much more. The opportunity to move our Jboss
application server version forward to 7, in itself, is hugely appreciated.
Thank You Marek!
John Gunvaldson
San Diego, CA
12:29 p.m.
New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
Ok.. Great news about Seam 2.3! i'm looking for to try it!
But i've a dummy question..
Seam 3 is about modules that provide support for JSF2 and CDI. It suffered
a lot out criticism/misunderstanding (
http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/SeamNextAnnouncement) because the seam
developers were used to a fully integrated framework, not pluggable modules.
So, did Seam 2.3 come to provide a fully integrated framework instead of
modules?
How it's gonna be?
Will I be able to use Seam 2.3 with some Seam 3.x's modules? Or all
Seam3.x's features will be already available in Seam 2.3?
Raphael Lacerda
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Gunvaldson, John <jgunvaldson(a)ucsd.edu>wrote:
<!--
By far the largest chunk is going to be migrating to JSF 2
-->
And by far, the greatest opportunity for advancing your Seam 2.2
applications into the future. Finally, a migration path to JSF 2 is
available without a huge rewrite. IE 9 problems relating to old Richfaces
libraries can be attended to (instead of just patched). I am so looking
forward to moving out of Richfaces 3.3 into 4+, as well as leveraging the
JSF 2 enhanced templating features, so much more. The opportunity to move
our Jboss application server version forward to 7, in itself, is hugely
appreciated.
Thank You Marek!
John Gunvaldson
San Diego, CA
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New subject: Seam 2.3 migration available - review needed
Seam 2.3 is the same Seam that you're used to from Seam 2.2. The only
difference is that it supports JSF2, JPA2 and runs out of the box on AS7.
It doesn't have anything to do with CDI or Seam 3.
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Raphael Lacerda <lacerdaph(a)gmail.com>wrote:
Ok.. Great news about Seam 2.3! i'm looking for to try it!
But i've a dummy question..
Seam 3 is about modules that provide support for JSF2 and CDI. It suffered
a lot out criticism/misunderstanding (
http://in.relation.to/Bloggers/SeamNextAnnouncement) because the seam
developers were used to a fully integrated framework, not pluggable modules.
So, did Seam 2.3 come to provide a fully integrated framework instead of
modules?
How it's gonna be?
Will I be able to use Seam 2.3 with some Seam 3.x's modules? Or all
Seam3.x's features will be already available in Seam 2.3?
Raphael Lacerda
On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Gunvaldson, John <jgunvaldson(a)ucsd.edu>wrote:
> <!--
> By far the largest chunk is going to be migrating to JSF 2
> -->
> And by far, the greatest opportunity for advancing your Seam 2.2
> applications into the future. Finally, a migration path to JSF 2 is
> available without a huge rewrite. IE 9 problems relating to old Richfaces
> libraries can be attended to (instead of just patched). I am so looking
> forward to moving out of Richfaces 3.3 into 4+, as well as leveraging the
> JSF 2 enhanced templating features, so much more. The opportunity to move
> our Jboss application server version forward to 7, in itself, is hugely
> appreciated.
>
> Thank You Marek!
>
> John Gunvaldson
> San Diego, CA
>
>
>
>
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