[aerogear-dev] Android - server endpoint

[Matthias Wessendorf]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Glen Daniels <glen at thoughtcraft.com> wrote:
> Hey Marko, all,
>
> So this is indeed cool stuff!  A few comments:
>
> As you say, it's AppEngine-specific.  While it's true that the blogger
> Matthias pointed to is trying to replicate the server-side with Jersey,
> that's very much not baked, nor is that approach sanctioned by Google as
> yet.

true, but I liked the idea that he is exchanging the proprietary Google.
And also we don't really care about the google platform :-)


> At the least we certainly want the AeroGear stuff to work on
> OpenShift.


> It also looks kind of Eclipse-specific.  Not sure if they expose command
> line tools for doing the codegen/etc for use with other IDEs or maven

I saw the usage of CLI tool to generate the ObjC bits

> builds - but hopefully they do.  Eclipse-specificity isn't necessarily a
> huge problem but we definitely need to support other IDEs/workflows as
> well. ("right?" -- says the die-hard IntelliJ user :) )
>
> All in all this seems to be rather a lot like what AeroGear (and
> Parse/Kinvey/Stackmob/etc) is trying to actually become, so perhaps it's
> more another competitor in the ecosystem as opposed to something we
> really want to use as foundation.  That said, if there are useful pieces
> we can borrow, that'd be dandy - i.e. if we're really happy with their
> wire-level API and codegen tools then perhaps there'd be a way to
> leverage those things with a JBoss backend.


Areogear is providing client libs, to be used by apps;

If I understand it correctly, the google thing is gereating app libs
(for a certrain app)
which uses under the cover SOMETHING (from google) for http communication.
Basically their differenclient libs, like

- http://code.google.com/p/google-api-objectivec-client/
- http://code.google.com/p/gtm-http-fetcher/
(for iOS)


at SOMETHING (the client libs) is what we are after, right now …
>
> Finally, their stuff isn't public yet, so it would seem somewhat
> challenging to hitch to their wagon in the near term even if we wanted to.

I can't even find examples of generated source, and in order to get
access to the 'google thing',
you need to sign up (not really up for it :-))

-Matthias

>
> Thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
> --Glen
>
> On 8/14/12 2:22 PM, Marko Strukelj wrote:
>> I want to share some links from Google I/O 2012 that describe current
>> solution from Google with respect of ease of development - how to
>> have a REST endpoint in support of client apps on multiple
>> platforms.
>>
>> One interesting solution is something they call Endpoints. It's
>> AppEngine-centric, but you can think of AppEngine as your server-side
>> wherever it's hosted. The idea is that you create your endpoint - a
>> REST service, annotate it with some annotations and then use tooling
>> to generate client library for your REST service. And you can
>> generate client libs in java, ObjectiveC, javascript ...
>>
>> A very nice demo of this (starts playing where the interesting part
>> begins): http://youtu.be/NU_wNR_UUn4?t=9m24s
>>
>> Note at 19:36 into the video (http://youtu.be/NU_wNR_UUn4?t=19m36s) a
>> mentioned JSON description of deployed REST service, and API
>> Explorer.
>>
>> API Explorer is really cool stuff - you can explore your REST service
>> from your browser, and interact with it. And JSON based metadata
>> about the service allows direct usage in javascript libraries in the
>> browser.
>>
>> At 22:41 into the movie (http://youtu.be/NU_wNR_UUn4?t=22m41s) there
>> is a demo of Google Plugin for Eclipse used to generate client side
>> API from a web service.
>>
>>
>>
>> There is another interesting video on the topic:
>> http://youtu.be/dylFNrvZ_3U?t=26m45s
>>
>> It starts a bit slowly but it's necessary to explain what a demo app
>> does, and then gets more interesting about 35:40 into the video
>> (http://youtu.be/dylFNrvZ_3U?t=35m40s).
>>
>>
>> Some food for thought ...
>>
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