[aerogear-dev] [jdf-dev] 20 minute JBDS Demo with OpenShift Enterprise/OnPremise

Douglas Campos qmx at qmx.me
Wed Nov 14 11:59:29 EST 2012


Pete, I'm cranking the release wheel today to fix this :)

On Nov 14, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Pete Muir wrote:

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> On 13 Nov 2012, at 21:38, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>> Damn, the project still fails to build when you choose an enterprise 
>> server. The archetype is really borked :-(
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>> For your demo, either :
>> - you stick with the community bits, it builds normally
>> - the JDF team rollbacks the archetype to version M5, so you can play 
>> with both community & enterprise versions
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> You mean in stacks? If Aerogear team agrees, then yes we can do this today.
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>> - the Aerogear team releases a working M7 version *now* and the JDF 
>> team updates the stacks.yml
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>> Regards,
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>> Fred Bricon
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>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 22:28:57, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>> Thank you - I will be able to test late tonight or tomorrow morning.
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>>> JBDS6 does not run on my mac so I have to get back to my Windows machine to test.
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>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>> As a temporary workaround, I disabled the arq-jbossas-remote profile on project creation . Created html5 project now builds OOTB... until you manually activate that profile.
>>>> Please refresh the project examples section in JBoss Central or restart your workspace.
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>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 18:41:32, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>> Thanks!
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>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>> I'm stuck with the kids for the next 3hrs. After that, it'll take me 10 min to get it fixed.
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>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 16:05:57, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>> How quickly could this get fixed for me?  I have a demo this Thursday but currently unable to use JBDS6 due to this one bug.
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>>>>>>> There may be other bugs behind this one - JBDS6 is not the most "stable" but the HTML5 archetype is a show-stopper for me right now.
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>>>>>>> It fails for AS7 and EAP6 - and I won't be able to "stop the recording", fix the problem and restart the recording.
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>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 15:22:02, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Is that a server-side fix? Or something that requires a new build/update?
>>>>>>>> Server side :-)
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>>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> Le lundi 12 novembre 2012 17:38:38, Max Rydahl Andersen a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Fred/Snjezana,
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>>>>>>>>>>> Burr pointed me to JBIDE-12987 which indicates the html5 archetype currently deployed in JBDS is broken.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Shit happens - but I Would like to be sure to understand where the culprit is.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Did this issue happen because:
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>>>>>>>>>>> A) we added an archetype without testing it to projectexamples.xml
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>>>>>>>>>>> B) the jdf-stack side is referring to a broken html5 archetype ?
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>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Actually the archetype referenced in stacks.yml is broken when you activate the arq-jbossas-remote profile and you're in enterprise mode.
>>>>>>>>>> The profile activation is done in projectexample.xm, which means we can decide to, temporarily, not activate that profile when creating the project. All we need is updating that example descriptor.
>>>>>>>>>> We'd turn the profile back on once a fixed archetype is referenced in stacks
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>>>>>>>>>>> ...in both cases we need to improve our reaction/QA work on this (we as in jboss wide - not just us from tools)
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>>>>>>>>>>> Before I hunt down the rightful owner could you enlighten me on wether its A or B from above ? (and if you got other info why it stopped working and suggestion to avoid it would be great)
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>>>>>>>>>>> /max
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>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately I am too busy multi-tasking to really nail this done.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> The HTML5 archetype on JBoss Central in JBDS6 is broken which is
>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty critical to my demos as well.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-12987
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:21 AM, André Dietisheim wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/2012 04:24 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I seem to get a number of "would you like to wait" messages.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> so you get these when the wizard reports it's waiting for the app to
>>>>>>>>>>>> become ready? if yes, then this is utterly weird. Applications
>>>>>>>>>>>> should follow the naming scheme:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> http://<application-name>-<domainname>.rhcloud.com
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>>>>>>>>>>>> So if you put openshift.redhat.com to your hosts file, then resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>> your apps should not get affected. Can you provide any further
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>>>>>>>>>>>> This seems to not be working for me
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>>>>>>>>>>>> what are the symptoms?
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>>>>>>>>>>>> You could alternatively run a liveCD in localhost and have some more
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>>>>>>>>>>>> - for now I will simply try to get JBDS6 to work with OpenShift
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>>>>>>>>>>>> And if that acts up, fall back to JBDS5 + OpenShift Hosted - and
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>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a pre-recorded demo/webinar and I am not sure if there is
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to script, test and record a 20 minute demo of JBDS (ideally
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) My plan is to use one of the hosted versions of OpenShift like
>>>>>>>>>>>> openshift.redhat.com or int.openshift.redhat.com and perhaps play
>>>>>>>>>>>> some games with the hosts file on my Windows machine - do make it
>>>>>>>>>>>> look like " openshift.mycompany.com " or something like that, what
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>>>>>>>>>>>> so yes it works when using some funky hack in hosts:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I added "54.243.111.12 openshift.local" to my hosts file and things
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Do you have a document that describes how to setup and debug? With
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>>>>>>>>>>>> a- Using the HTML5 archetype for JBoss Central
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>>>>>>>>>>>> c- Might even consider making an edit to the screen to so the viewer
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>>>>>>>>>>>> d- Assuming my account is already pre-established, will use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShift Wizard on JBoss Central to push up my app - I will need
>>>>>>>>>>>> things to talk about while waiting - I will use a pre-establised
>>>>>>>>>>>> account because OSE has not yet figured out how they will enlist new
>>>>>>>>>>>> developers - it won't be like the current self-provisioning model
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>>>>>>>>>>>> e- Now the app is "up in the cloud" - perhaps hit it with a real
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>>>>>>>>>>>> f- Add a debug break point and step through some things in the HTML5
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>>>>>>>>>>>> g- I would love to show "auto-scaling" but I am not sure how to make
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>>>>>>>>>>>> h- show off remote log access via OpenShift Explorer
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