[aerogear-dev] [jdf-dev] 20 minute JBDS Demo with OpenShift Enterprise/OnPremise

Lucas Holmquist lholmqui at redhat.com
Wed Nov 14 14:21:12 EST 2012


I sent a PR to the jdf-stacks updating the version,  for when it's in central that is
On Nov 14, 2012, at 2:12 PM, Douglas Campos <qmx at qmx.me> wrote:

> pushed to nexus, now we just need to wait it to sync to central
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> On Nov 14, 2012, at 3:25 PM, Pete Muir wrote:
> 
>> Great, just tell Rafael any updates you need on our end.
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>> On 14 Nov 2012, at 16:59, Douglas Campos wrote:
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>>> Pete, I'm cranking the release wheel today to fix this :)
>>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Pete Muir wrote:
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>>>> On 13 Nov 2012, at 21:38, Fred Bricon wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Damn, the project still fails to build when you choose an enterprise 
>>>>> server. The archetype is really borked :-(
>>>>> 
>>>>> For your demo, either :
>>>>> - you stick with the community bits, it builds normally
>>>>> - the JDF team rollbacks the archetype to version M5, so you can play 
>>>>> with both community & enterprise versions
>>>> 
>>>> You mean in stacks? If Aerogear team agrees, then yes we can do this today.
>>>> 
>>>>> - the Aerogear team releases a working M7 version *now* and the JDF 
>>>>> team updates the stacks.yml
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Fred Bricon
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 22:28:57, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>> Thank you - I will be able to test late tonight or tomorrow morning.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> JBDS6 does not run on my mac so I have to get back to my Windows machine to test.
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>> As a temporary workaround, I disabled the arq-jbossas-remote profile on project creation . Created html5 project now builds OOTB... until you manually activate that profile.
>>>>>>> Please refresh the project examples section in JBoss Central or restart your workspace.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 18:41:32, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm stuck with the kids for the next 3hrs. After that, it'll take me 10 min to get it fixed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 16:05:57, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> How quickly could this get fixed for me?  I have a demo this Thursday but currently unable to use JBDS6 due to this one bug.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There may be other bugs behind this one - JBDS6 is not the most "stable" but the HTML5 archetype is a show-stopper for me right now.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It fails for AS7 and EAP6 - and I won't be able to "stop the recording", fix the problem and restart the recording.
>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 15:22:02, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>> Is that a server-side fix? Or something that requires a new build/update?
>>>>>>>>>>> Server side :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le lundi 12 novembre 2012 17:38:38, Max Rydahl Andersen a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Fred/Snjezana,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Burr pointed me to JBIDE-12987 which indicates the html5 archetype currently deployed in JBDS is broken.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shit happens - but I Would like to be sure to understand where the culprit is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Did this issue happen because:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A) we added an archetype without testing it to projectexamples.xml
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> B) the jdf-stack side is referring to a broken html5 archetype ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Actually the archetype referenced in stacks.yml is broken when you activate the arq-jbossas-remote profile and you're in enterprise mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The profile activation is done in projectexample.xm, which means we can decide to, temporarily, not activate that profile when creating the project. All we need is updating that example descriptor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We'd turn the profile back on once a fixed archetype is referenced in stacks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...in both cases we need to improve our reaction/QA work on this (we as in jboss wide - not just us from tools)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before I hunt down the rightful owner could you enlighten me on wether its A or B from above ? (and if you got other info why it stopped working and suggestion to avoid it would be great)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> /max
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately I am too busy multi-tasking to really nail this done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The HTML5 archetype on JBoss Central in JBDS6 is broken which is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty critical to my demos as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-12987
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2012, at 11:21 AM, André Dietisheim wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/12/2012 04:24 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I seem to get a number of "would you like to wait" messages.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so you get these when the wizard reports it's waiting for the app to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> become ready? if yes, then this is utterly weird. Applications
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should follow the naming scheme:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://<application-name>-<domainname>.rhcloud.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if you put openshift.redhat.com to your hosts file, then resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your apps should not get affected. Can you provide any further
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insights/details?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2012, at 3:33 AM, André Dietisheim wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/11/2012 08:17 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This seems to not be working for me
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what are the symptoms?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You could alternatively run a liveCD in localhost and have some more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funky hosts entry. The drawback is that the default liveCD does no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dynamic DNS-update so you'd have to add you app-namees into hosts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - for now I will simply try to get JBDS6 to work with OpenShift
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hosted.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if that acts up, fall back to JBDS5 + OpenShift Hosted - and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully the audience won't "see" it. :-)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a pre-recorded demo/webinar and I am not sure if there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even a live Q&A after the session.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 8, 2012, at 5:20 AM, André Dietisheim wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/06/2012 05:26 PM, Burr Sutter wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to script, test and record a 20 minute demo of JBDS (ideally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6) with OSE next week (around Nov 14 or 15)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) My plan is to use one of the hosted versions of OpenShift like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> openshift.redhat.com or int.openshift.redhat.com and perhaps play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some games with the hosts file on my Windows machine - do make it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look like " openshift.mycompany.com " or something like that, what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do you think - might that work?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so yes it works when using some funky hack in hosts:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I added "54.243.111.12 openshift.local" to my hosts file and things
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Do you have a document that describes how to setup and debug? With
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20 minutes, I will likely have enough time to show off debugging in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cloud
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) What would you say are the most critical things to show?
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is my list:
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a- Using the HTML5 archetype for JBoss Central
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> b- Displayed in Mobile Browser Sim
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> c- Might even consider making an edit to the screen to so the viewer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sees some "coding"
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> d- Assuming my account is already pre-established, will use the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShift Wizard on JBoss Central to push up my app - I will need
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things to talk about while waiting - I will use a pre-establised
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> account because OSE has not yet figured out how they will enlist new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developers - it won't be like the current self-provisioning model
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which creates a RHN account.
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e- Now the app is "up in the cloud" - perhaps hit it with a real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mobile device (I have a special camera for that)
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> f- Add a debug break point and step through some things in the HTML5
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kitchensink app...in the cloud
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> g- I would love to show "auto-scaling" but I am not sure how to make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that work - or if anyone has every demo'd that before
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> h- show off remote log access via OpenShift Explorer
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what else?
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