[aerogear-dev] 20 minute JBDS Demo with OpenShift Enterprise/OnPremise
Max Rydahl Andersen
max.andersen at redhat.com
Wed Nov 14 13:36:23 EST 2012
>> For your demo, either :
>> - you stick with the community bits, it builds normally
>> - the JDF team rollbacks the archetype to version M5, so you can play
>> with both community & enterprise versions
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> You mean in stacks? If Aerogear team agrees, then yes we can do this today.
Yes, its stacks that are currently pointing to an archetype that does not work when used with enterprise=true style dependencies.
Would be great to get this issue fixed ASAP :)
>> - the Aerogear team releases a working M7 version *now* and the JDF
>> team updates the stacks.yml
To avoid this issue in the future - could we not have a "unit test" on the stacks site to at least do a basic verification of the various referenced archetypes
against community and enterprise dependencies ?
the individual projects should of course also do this basic testing but seems stacks is a good position to at least do a basic verification ? wdyt ?
/max
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>> Regards,
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>> Fred Bricon
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>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 22:28:57, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>> Thank you - I will be able to test late tonight or tomorrow morning.
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>>> JBDS6 does not run on my mac so I have to get back to my Windows machine to test.
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>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 3:36 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>> As a temporary workaround, I disabled the arq-jbossas-remote profile on project creation . Created html5 project now builds OOTB... until you manually activate that profile.
>>>> Please refresh the project examples section in JBoss Central or restart your workspace.
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>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 18:41:32, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>> Thanks!
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>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>> I'm stuck with the kids for the next 3hrs. After that, it'll take me 10 min to get it fixed.
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>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 16:05:57, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>> How quickly could this get fixed for me? I have a demo this Thursday but currently unable to use JBDS6 due to this one bug.
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>>>>>>> There may be other bugs behind this one - JBDS6 is not the most "stable" but the HTML5 archetype is a show-stopper for me right now.
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>>>>>>> It fails for AS7 and EAP6 - and I won't be able to "stop the recording", fix the problem and restart the recording.
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>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Le mardi 13 novembre 2012 15:22:02, Burr Sutter a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Is that a server-side fix? Or something that requires a new build/update?
>>>>>>>> Server side :-)
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>>>>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2012, at 6:37 AM, Fred Bricon wrote:
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>>>>>>>>>> Le lundi 12 novembre 2012 17:38:38, Max Rydahl Andersen a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Fred/Snjezana,
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>>>>>>>>>>> Burr pointed me to JBIDE-12987 which indicates the html5 archetype currently deployed in JBDS is broken.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Shit happens - but I Would like to be sure to understand where the culprit is.
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>>>>>>>>>>> Did this issue happen because:
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>>>>>>>>>>> A) we added an archetype without testing it to projectexamples.xml
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>>>>>>>>>>> B) the jdf-stack side is referring to a broken html5 archetype ?
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>>>>>>>>>> Yes. Actually the archetype referenced in stacks.yml is broken when you activate the arq-jbossas-remote profile and you're in enterprise mode.
>>>>>>>>>> The profile activation is done in projectexample.xm, which means we can decide to, temporarily, not activate that profile when creating the project. All we need is updating that example descriptor.
>>>>>>>>>> We'd turn the profile back on once a fixed archetype is referenced in stacks
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>>>>>>>>>>> ...in both cases we need to improve our reaction/QA work on this (we as in jboss wide - not just us from tools)
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>>>>>>>>>>> Before I hunt down the rightful owner could you enlighten me on wether its A or B from above ? (and if you got other info why it stopped working and suggestion to avoid it would be great)
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>>>>>>>>>>> /max
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>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> unfortunately I am too busy multi-tasking to really nail this done.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> The HTML5 archetype on JBoss Central in JBDS6 is broken which is
>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty critical to my demos as well.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-12987
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I seem to get a number of "would you like to wait" messages.
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>>>>>>>>>>>> so you get these when the wizard reports it's waiting for the app to
>>>>>>>>>>>> become ready? if yes, then this is utterly weird. Applications
>>>>>>>>>>>> should follow the naming scheme:
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>>>>>>>>>>>> http://<application-name>-<domainname>.rhcloud.com
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>>>>>>>>>>>> So if you put openshift.redhat.com to your hosts file, then resolving
>>>>>>>>>>>> your apps should not get affected. Can you provide any further
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>>>>>>>>>>>> You could alternatively run a liveCD in localhost and have some more
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>>>>>>>>>>>> - for now I will simply try to get JBDS6 to work with OpenShift
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>>>>>>>>>>>> And if that acts up, fall back to JBDS5 + OpenShift Hosted - and
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I have to script, test and record a 20 minute demo of JBDS (ideally
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) My plan is to use one of the hosted versions of OpenShift like
>>>>>>>>>>>> openshift.redhat.com or int.openshift.redhat.com and perhaps play
>>>>>>>>>>>> some games with the hosts file on my Windows machine - do make it
>>>>>>>>>>>> look like " openshift.mycompany.com " or something like that, what
>>>>>>>>>>>> do you think - might that work?
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>>>>>>>>>>>> I added "54.243.111.12 openshift.local" to my hosts file and things
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>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) Do you have a document that describes how to setup and debug? With
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>>>>>>>>>>>> a- Using the HTML5 archetype for JBoss Central
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>>>>>>>>>>>> c- Might even consider making an edit to the screen to so the viewer
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>>>>>>>>>>>> d- Assuming my account is already pre-established, will use the
>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenShift Wizard on JBoss Central to push up my app - I will need
>>>>>>>>>>>> things to talk about while waiting - I will use a pre-establised
>>>>>>>>>>>> account because OSE has not yet figured out how they will enlist new
>>>>>>>>>>>> developers - it won't be like the current self-provisioning model
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>>>>>>>>>>>> e- Now the app is "up in the cloud" - perhaps hit it with a real
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>>>>>>>>>>>> f- Add a debug break point and step through some things in the HTML5
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>>>>>>>>>>>> g- I would love to show "auto-scaling" but I am not sure how to make
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>>>>>>>>>>>> h- show off remote log access via OpenShift Explorer
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