[aerogear-dev] aerogear site restyle

Hylke Bons hbons at redhat.com
Tue Aug 6 12:22:52 EDT 2013


Thanks again!
I've pushed the fix to my branch now.

Hylke

On 06/08/2013 16:53, Corinne Krych wrote:
> Hi Hylke
>
> Regarding the issue you had on you fork branch, on iPhone/Android 
> browsers of the paragraph being shifted to the right. This issue is 
> caused by this line:
> https://github.com/hbons/aerogear.org/blob/AEROGEAR-1285/css/main.css#L389
>
> Replace
> .feature {
>      margin: 0 auto;
>      padding: 1em 3em;
>      max-width: 50em;
> }
> by
>
> .feature {
>      margin: 0 auto;
>      padding: 1em 1em;
>      max-width: 50em;
> }
> and remove margin in:
> .features {
>    /*margin: 3em auto;*/
> }
> and you should get the spec you wanted.
> Because you're working border-box, padding is taking extra space out 
> out the box and if there is not enough space in the parent container 
> it expands. One thing I would advise is: when designing your site, 
>  test it on real devices on iterative steps as often as possible.
>
> ++
> Corinne
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Kris Borchers <kborcher at redhat.com 
> <mailto:kborcher at redhat.com>> wrote:
>
>> +0.5
>>
>> I agree the footer was too big but I want to do a full review of all 
>> navigation when i get back before saying +1
>>
>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 7:34, Corinne Krych <corinnekrych at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:corinnekrych at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> #agreed on icons not being meaningful, we could do hyperlinks with 
>>> text.
>>> But to keep footer small, let's not put to much information in the 
>>> footer. Id you recall we had a huge footer.
>>> I'd go for a footer that looks like this one:
>>> http://wildfly.org/
>>>
>>> wdyt?
>>>
>>> Corinne
>>>
>>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com 
>>> <mailto:hbons at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great!
>>>>
>>>> We're nearly there now, I'll fix the remaining issues today.
>>>>
>>>> I the use of icons in the footer is problematic. Visitors don't 
>>>> necessarily know what these mean.
>>>>
>>>> For example, where would you go if you want to report an issue? Not 
>>>> everyone is familiar with Jira and its logo. (You could hover and 
>>>> get some kind of clue, but you can't do this on touch devices, and 
>>>> it would be annoying)
>>>>
>>>> So I think we should revert back to just using text links... The 
>>>> social networks can remain as icons.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Hylke
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 05/08/2013 10:14, Corinne Krych wrote:
>>>>> Hello All
>>>>>
>>>>> @Hylke, I've integrated your comments:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. logo is on left on desktop, centred on phone. I think this was 
>>>>> a good comprise to make it look good on desktop and phone.
>>>>> 2. menu icon is fixed
>>>>> 3. page padding for paragraph added
>>>>> 4. I've downloaded the fonts locally and honestly it improved 
>>>>> performance when browsing on devices
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like you to revisit the footer icons I've added 
>>>>> (doc/jira/email/github/irc). It would be nice if they can look 
>>>>> like the twitter/facebook/google+ ones you initially created. wdyt?
>>>>>
>>>>> @all, ready for your review guys, PR sent.
>>>>>
>>>>> ++
>>>>> Corinne
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Corinne Krych <corinnekrych at gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:corinnekrych at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Hylke!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've answered your comets below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Taking the latest code in my branch:
>>>>>> https://github.com/corinnekrych/aerogear.org/tree/AEROGEAR-1285
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've also proposed a solution to make the footer much smaller. I 
>>>>>> used images. But, I like to have your designer view on that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By tonight i hope to have a general feeling for the all site. 
>>>>>> Stay tune.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> ++
>>>>>> Corinne
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com 
>>>>>> <mailto:hbons at redhat.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks so much for looking into this Corrine!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I just had a look at the OpenShift instance. It looks good to me 
>>>>>>> responsiveness-wise. I like the menu behaviour.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are still some minor style issues. If you still have time 
>>>>>>> to look into this that would be great,
>>>>>>> otherwise I can take a look at these be fore we launch the new 
>>>>>>> style:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Logo is centred on the page, it looks more balanced having it 
>>>>>>> stick to the left.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny, personally and specially on phone I found centred logo 
>>>>>> looks more balance. i remember seeing Passos's comments on this. 
>>>>>> He actually wanted it centred too. But I guess it's a mater of 
>>>>>> taste. I can change. let's see others comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - The menu icon is a bit hard to see (I've attached a quick svg 
>>>>>>> with a colour change, would be nice if we could use that and 
>>>>>>> have it not change shape)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I changed the icon with a unicode (triple bar) much easier to 
>>>>>> see. Pushed all that to my branch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - The news headline ("AG 1.0 is out!") is sticking to the right 
>>>>>>> of the page, it would be better if it kept to the right, but 
>>>>>>> still in the middle of the page for large screen setups
>>>>>>> - The platform icons seem to shift a pixel when you hover them
>>>>>>
>>>>>> nice catch will fix that. it gives a bad flickering effect indeed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - There's no page padding when scaling down, this makes the text 
>>>>>>> paragraphs harder to read, because they touch the screen edge
>>>>>>> - Some padding/spacing issue all-round. This is probably because 
>>>>>>> everything was rebased on Boilerplate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am actually working on all the other pages. my initial focus 
>>>>>> was home page.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll try to get a local instance running again and help out with 
>>>>>>> these things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> + 10001
>>>>>> Together we'll have much power, thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hylke
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 01/08/2013 06:40, Daniel Bevenius wrote:
>>>>>>>> Looks nice!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 31 July 2013 18:57, Bruno Oliveira <bruno at abstractj.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:bruno at abstractj.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Thanks Corinne.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Just tried and deployed on OpenShift
>>>>>>>>     http://site-abstractj.rhcloud.com/. Looks really good, I
>>>>>>>>     also tested it with http://mattkersley.com/responsive/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     I'll try later on Android, IPhone and IPad.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Thanks for looking at this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Matthias Wessendorf
>>>>>>>>     <matzew at apache.org <mailto:matzew at apache.org>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         pretty cool!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         Just tried your branch and it looks good on my iPhone
>>>>>>>>         4s and on my Galaxy S II.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         -Matthias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>         On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Corinne Krych
>>>>>>>>         <corinnekrych at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>         <mailto:corinnekrych at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Hello All,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             We've been talking about redesigning our
>>>>>>>>             aerogear.org <http://aerogear.org/> web site.
>>>>>>>>              Hylke has done a great design job. Now, we 'just'
>>>>>>>>             want to make it responsive.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Out of several proposals:
>>>>>>>>             1. use bootstrap (current version of our site) and
>>>>>>>>             apply our custom design
>>>>>>>>             2. use topcoat css and apply our custom design
>>>>>>>>             3. use HTML5 boilerplate and apply our custom
>>>>>>>>             design and make it responsive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             I initially started with option 1, which might be
>>>>>>>>             overkill for a static site.
>>>>>>>>             Tried option 2, but here too, it seems overkill so
>>>>>>>>             ended with option 3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Using a blank page, I worked on Home page
>>>>>>>>             reapplying Hylke css but:
>>>>>>>>             - removing maximun-scale=1.0 because we want to let
>>>>>>>>             people zoom if they wish,
>>>>>>>>             - replacing 'px' unit to use 'em',
>>>>>>>>             - centred logo images,
>>>>>>>>             - making sure width is right otherwise you get
>>>>>>>>             screw up with iPhone rotate
>>>>>>>>             - adding media queries (only 2 breakpoints for now,
>>>>>>>>             but need to be adjusted with devices tests and your
>>>>>>>>             feedbacks)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             The main points to sort out for UX design is the
>>>>>>>>             menu bar and the footer.
>>>>>>>>             To me, footer is too huge, even on desktop, could
>>>>>>>>             we remove news?
>>>>>>>>             For the menu, it looks fine on tablets format but
>>>>>>>>             on phone, it's not really accessible. So I
>>>>>>>>             implemented topcoat swipe menu using CSS3
>>>>>>>>             transform. Is it UX friendly? wdyt?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             Feedback welcome,
>>>>>>>>             Work in progress in
>>>>>>>>             https://github.com/corinnekrych/aerogear.org/tree/AEROGEAR-1285
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>             ++
>>>>>>>>             Corinne
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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