[aerogear-dev] Unified Push Server user management questions

Lucas Holmquist lucas.holmquist at gmail.com
Mon Jul 8 11:56:04 EDT 2013 

I would like to reboot the discussion of css frameworks

the 2 that are in question are bootstrap and topcoat.

i would like to here why one is "better" than the other.  or why the preference. 

Ready, Go.

On Jul 8, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com> wrote:

> Updated wireframes can be found here: https://github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/blob/master/aerogear_unified_push_server_admin_ui.png
> 
> Hylke
> 
> 
> On 03/07/2013 13:19, Lucas Holmquist wrote:
>> tl;dr
>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> So this is not really a design question.
>>> 
>>> So the admin console will allow developers/admins to "register" so they can log into the UI,   should there be a section in the UI that allows for user management?  or is this a separate thing?  Probably not a priority atm,  but just thinking out load
>>> 
>>> yes, and I think we have had that already in this thread, that some sort of user management is needed.  
>>> 
>>> Quote from first email in this thread: "The next step is to look at the the missing features like the user
>>> management and authentication."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Matthias
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hold you horses, I barely had a day to work on them... :)
>>>> I'll post them as soon as possible.
>>>> 
>>>> Hylke
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 02/07/2013 14:50, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> HI,
>>>>> 
>>>>> just wanted to see if there was any update to those wireframes yet
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'd be interested as well :)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Alright, so after a chat with Matthias on IRC about the potential use cases I'm updating the wireframes with the requirement. I'll post an update here soon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hylke
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28/06/2013 12:38, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> perhaps a workflow explanation will clear things up a bit
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> i log in to the admin console and the first screen should be where i create a "Push Application", which isn't really an application, but just a grouping name essentially.  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> then under the "Push Applications" details,  this is where we actually create the "apps"( or the different variants of the grouping ). Each of these would need there own certificate/googleApiKey.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm not even sure we're talking about the same thing. :)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just to make sure, this is _not_ about the ID/Secret shown in the wireframes for the app and its variants? (the variant ones show up in "tooltips").
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Of course, every variant also has it's own variantID/secret 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hylke
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 28/06/2013 12:09, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Still, we would you want to use different settings if the result,
>>>>>>>>> getting a message to the client, is the same?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> you lost me. Not sure what you are asking :)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Are you concerned about the "payload" (message) is represented differently ?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If one PushApp has several variants:
>>>>>>>>> * HR-iOS-Tablet free
>>>>>>>>> * HR-iOS-Tablet paid
>>>>>>>>> * HR-iOS-Phone free
>>>>>>>>> * HR-Android-Phone paid
>>>>>>>>> * HR-Android-Watch free
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Each has it's OWN cert/key. Still if you send out something like:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> curl -u "{PushApplicationID}:{MasterSecret}"
>>>>>>>>>    -v -H "Accept: application/json" -H "Content-type: application/json" 
>>>>>>>>>    -X POST
>>>>>>>>>    -d '{"key":"value", "alert":"HELLO!"}'
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> http://localhost:8080/ag-push/rest/sender/broadcast
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> the message would be delivered to all clients - regardless of the underlying "PushNetwork"
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hylke
>>>>>>>>> 
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