[aerogear-dev] Unified Push Server user management questions

Lucas Holmquist lholmqui at redhat.com
Wed Jul 10 15:34:30 EDT 2013


So i've been playing with the latest wireframes and i'm not sure how well a "Master/Detail" view is going to scale when there are a lot of Apps.  

The list of Created applications could be potentially really long,  or if on a smaller screen( not necessarily a mobile screen  ) , then we have scrolling on the side bar,  and also could have scrolling on the main detail section.  which gets a bit annoying.

I'm wondering, and would like others thoughts, if we should get rid of the sidebar stuff, which is really there for navigation i think.


On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:

> thanks,  i'll take a look
> 
> 
> here is the repo where development is happening https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-unified-push-server-admin-ui
> 
> i added mocks and the read me should explain how to set it up
> 
> On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> Another iteration is up in the same place.
>> 
>> Hylke
>> 
>> On 08/07/2013 15:01, Hylke Bons wrote:
>>> Updated wireframes can be found here: https://github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/blob/master/aerogear_unified_push_server_admin_ui.png
>>> 
>>> Hylke
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 03/07/2013 13:19, Lucas Holmquist wrote:
>>>> tl;dr
>>>> On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> So this is not really a design question.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So the admin console will allow developers/admins to "register" so they can log into the UI,   should there be a section in the UI that allows for user management?  or is this a separate thing?  Probably not a priority atm,  but just thinking out load
>>>>> 
>>>>> yes, and I think we have had that already in this thread, that some sort of user management is needed.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quote from first email in this thread: "The next step is to look at the the missing features like the user
>>>>> management and authentication."
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hold you horses, I barely had a day to work on them... :)
>>>>>> I'll post them as soon as possible.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hylke
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 02/07/2013 14:50, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> HI,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> just wanted to see if there was any update to those wireframes yet
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'd be interested as well :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -Matthias
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Alright, so after a chat with Matthias on IRC about the potential use cases I'm updating the wireframes with the requirement. I'll post an update here soon.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hylke
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 28/06/2013 12:38, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> perhaps a workflow explanation will clear things up a bit
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> i log in to the admin console and the first screen should be where i create a "Push Application", which isn't really an application, but just a grouping name essentially.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> then under the "Push Applications" details,  this is where we actually create the "apps"( or the different variants of the grouping ). Each of these would need there own certificate/googleApiKey.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> exactly
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not even sure we're talking about the same thing. :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Just to make sure, this is _not_ about the ID/Secret shown in the wireframes for the app and its variants? (the variant ones show up in "tooltips").
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Of course, every variant also has it's own variantID/secret 
>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hylke
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 28/06/2013 12:09, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Still, we would you want to use different settings if the result,
>>>>>>>>>>> getting a message to the client, is the same?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> you lost me. Not sure what you are asking :)
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you concerned about the "payload" (message) is represented differently ?
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If one PushApp has several variants:
>>>>>>>>>>> * HR-iOS-Tablet free
>>>>>>>>>>> * HR-iOS-Tablet paid
>>>>>>>>>>> * HR-iOS-Phone free
>>>>>>>>>>> * HR-Android-Phone paid
>>>>>>>>>>> * HR-Android-Watch free
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Each has it's OWN cert/key. Still if you send out something like:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> curl -u "{PushApplicationID}:{MasterSecret}"
>>>>>>>>>>>    -v -H "Accept: application/json" -H "Content-type: application/json" 
>>>>>>>>>>>    -X POST
>>>>>>>>>>>    -d '{"key":"value", "alert":"HELLO!"}'
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> http://localhost:8080/ag-push/rest/sender/broadcast
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> the message would be delivered to all clients - regardless of the underlying "PushNetwork"
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hylke
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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