[aerogear-dev] Push Admin UI - Updating

Tue Jul 16 10:13:17 EDT 2013

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:12 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com>wrote:

> so i've been using aerogear.js pipes to send my updates to the server.
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> Currently we have no way of doing a PATCH,  at least i don't think we do
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:) Good point

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> On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:40 AM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
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> ok  i'll create some JIRA's
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> On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
> wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Kris Borchers <kris at redhat.com> wrote:
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>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
>> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com>wrote:
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>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Kris Borchers <kris at redhat.com> wrote:
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>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
>>> wrote:
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>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Kris Borchers <kris at redhat.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
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>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Kris Borchers <kris at redhat.com> wrote:
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>>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Kris Borchers <kris at redhat.com>wrote:
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>>>>>> On Jul 16, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com
>>>>>> > wrote:
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>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <
>>>>>>> matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Lucas Holmquist <
>>>>>>>> lholmqui at redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> here's a scenario.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A user creates an "Application" then adds a new "iOS Variant" to
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> they decide they need to rename this Variant since they didn't
>>>>>>>>> name it very well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is currently no way of renaming/ updating the description of
>>>>>>>>> this variant without re-sending the Certificate/pass phrase.  this would be
>>>>>>>>> the same for Android and Simple Push,  just substitute google key and
>>>>>>>>> channels
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes - but should be easy to change :-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> See here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-unified-push-server/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/connectivity/rest/registry/applications/AndroidVariantEndpoint.java#L134-L138
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> in the "update", we just need to onbly update/replace those things
>>>>>>>> that are NOT null. Of course, perhaps we need to rethink the "update
>>>>>>>> validation" too:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-unified-push-server/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/connectivity/rest/registry/applications/AndroidVariantEndpoint.java#L130-L132
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes that could work even if I must admit I'm not a big fan of
>>>>>>> updating based on a null check ... Imagine someone wants to delete the
>>>>>>> description by setting it to null , that won't be possible ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> well, yeah - that (the desc) is optional - I was more interested in
>>>>>> the required fields:
>>>>>> e.g. for iOS Variant:
>>>>>> * cert/passphrase (or googlekey/networkURL on other variants)
>>>>>> PushApp:
>>>>>> * name
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure how I feel about this partial update. I'm not a big fan
>>>>>> of saying "It's a required field but leave it null if you don't want it to
>>>>>> change." Feels wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> not sure I am following, but the required fields should never be null
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I'm not following.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :-)
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>>>>
>>>>> Let's go through a scenario and see how each would work with your
>>>>> method. Imagine there are currently values in every field. What fields need
>>>>> values and what can be null when:
>>>>>
>>>>> I update a single required field?
>>>>> I update a single optional field?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well,when I update the FORM and hit ENTER (let's assume this is a PUT,
>>>> just for now..), aren't the entire form values sent?
>>>>
>>>> So, any field that changed will be udpated, I think
>>>>
>>>> Now if you NULL out a required field, I'd imagine that is not allowed.
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>>>>
>>>> So I guess I'm confused as to why there was any discussion of NULL
>>>> fields being ignored then. If the form is filled in for the user, if they
>>>> empty a field it should either fail (required field) or empty the value
>>>> (optional field).
>>>>
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>>> +1
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>>>> NULL should never just be ignored, right?
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>>> I think, the "confusion" comes in..... what happens if (iOS Variant),
>>> JUST the name is changed (note: the certificate FILE is required).
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>>> I guess that would be just fine... if (on the JUST iOSVariant.name is
>>> changed), we do not bother with the certificate.
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>>> We update the certificate ONLY if it is actually part of the "UPDATE
>>> request".
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>>>
>>> I see. Yeah that's pretty standard. What I have done in my app building
>>> past when dealing with files (certificate) is to show the current file name
>>> in the UI and if the file field is left blank, ignore that in the update.
>>>
>>>
>>> that seems to be a good way of doing it.  we would still need to change
>>> the logic on the endpoint method to ignore the certificate if its not
>>> there, or use PATCH?
>>>
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>> I'd say PUT (but I am not Roy Fielding ;-))
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>> I would vote PATCH to be correct but would not cry if it's PUT I guess.
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> yeah - good call. I guess PATCH does make sense [1].
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> [1] http://www.mnot.net/blog/2012/09/05/patch
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>>> the thing i'd be worried about when resending the cert bits,
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>> do not do it :-)   Only send IF a user really did select a file with the
>> [input type:file] field, no ?
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>> +1
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>>> would be that some bit might change in the transfer and F up everything
>>> else
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>>> -M
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>>>>>> If we are to do partial updates like this though, I would say it
>>>>>> should probably use http PATCH instead of PUT, right?
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>  (Well not sure it is a valid use case but you see my point) and as
>>>>>>> you said we must then rethink user validation.
>>>>>>> Other option is to split the update into more smaller specific
>>>>>>> updates methods ... but not sure about this also.
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also,  once we have a variant created,  we have a variant ID,  we
>>>>>>>>> should be able to use that ID( plus type? ) to do updates instead of having
>>>>>>>>> to pass the applicaitonID and variantID( same would go for a delete i guess
>>>>>>>>> ).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not really sure the best way to handle this.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the "variantID" is not a PK, but it's unique - so a new finder is
>>>>>>>> what you need.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Should a user be able to update a certificate/key/channel once it
>>>>>>>>> has been created.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes, they should be able to replace an outdated (or revoked)
>>>>>>>> certificate, API etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  How would this affect any installations it might have?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not at all.  so if (speaking Androind) ... a new "project" is used
>>>>>>>> - there is a new SenderID - that's more impact, since the actual mobile app
>>>>>>>> needs to be updated, but again that's not really a concern for the push
>>>>>>>> server
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Luke
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