[aerogear-dev] [Push Server] Admin UI

Matthias Wessendorf matzew at apache.org
Tue May 28 10:02:08 EDT 2013


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>wrote:

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>
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> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Apostolos Emmanouilidis <
> aemmanou at redhat.com> wrote:
>
>> In my opinion, adding a UI to send notification message will make the
>> Admin UI quite complex. If the users are able to send notification
>> messages from the UI they should also be able to receive the feedback
>> information from the Push Notification servers.
>>
>
>
> I agree, since I am also not a fan of sending messages from the UI.
> However folks keep asking,
> so I asked for that JIRA. this will, for sure, not be included in the
> first release;
>
>
>
>>
>> For example Apple mentions that "APNs has a feedback service that
>> maintains a per-application list of devices for which there were
>> failed-delivery attempts (that is, APNs was unable to deliver a push
>> notification to an application on a device). Periodically, the provider
>> should connect with the feedback service to see what devices have
>> persistent failures so that it can refrain from sending push
>> notifications to them."
>>
>
> Not needed.
>
> We have a ticket that we need a "scheduled" job to receive invalid from
> the network(s), in order to perform the "tidy-up":
> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-45
>
>
> Even _if_ we would do the SEND from the UI, the job (AGPUSH-45) would
> still be the only one, responsible for that "tidy-up".
>
> No need to stick this "request feedback" into the UI
>

Besides a simple field to schedule the actual "interval" :)


>
>
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>>
>> This means that extra functionality will be required, like the
>> synchronization of the tokens. The "inactive" tokens should be removed
>> or marked as "token to be deleted" and let the admin user decide whether
>> they will be deleted or not.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 10:18 +0200, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>> > perfect, thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Corinne Krych
>> > <corinnekrych at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >         https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38
>> >
>> >
>> >         for this (optional) 1.2.0 feature
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         On 24 May 2013 08:01, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>
>> >         wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >                 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Corinne Krych
>> >                 <corinnekrych at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >                         Will the adminui provides UI to send
>> >                         notification message?
>> >                         It could be useful for testing purpose.
>> >
>> >
>> >                 Not sure, if we do it for August, but can u file a
>> >                 JIRA ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >                         Or another use case could be to send automatic
>> >                         - rule triggerred - messages.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >                 Nope. If the business logic wants to "schedule" jobs,
>> >                 to send messages, it can do it.
>> >                 But not inside of the admin UI.  See also:
>> >
>> http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >                         Corinne
>> >
>> >
>> >                         On Thursday, May 23, 2013, Hylke Bons wrote:
>> >                                 Yes, that's great!
>> >                                 Thanks,
>> >
>> >                                 Hylke
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >                                 On 23/05/2013 15:08, Matthias
>> >                                 Wessendorf wrote:
>> >
>> >                                 > Hylke,
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 > here is a "spec", which has
>> >                                 > use-cases, scenarios of the Server
>> >                                 > Usage:
>> >                                 >
>> http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 > Let me know if that is good enough
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 > On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM,
>> >                                 > Hylke Bons <hbons at redhat.com> wrote:
>> >                                 >         Hi,
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >         I don't feel confident
>> >                                 >         enough to comment on these
>> >                                 >         right now as I'm currently
>> >                                 >         trying to learn more about
>> >                                 >         how AeroGear and push
>> >                                 >         notifications work, but
>> >                                 >         hopefully I wil be able to
>> >                                 >         soon. :)
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >         What are the
>> >                                 >         requirements/functionalities
>> >                                 >         that you've based this work
>> >                                 >         on? A few usecases might be
>> >                                 >         helpful too, so we can have
>> >                                 >         a better view on what you're
>> >                                 >         trying to design here.
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >         Thanks,
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >         Hylke
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >         On 23/05/2013 13:54, Lucas
>> >                                 >         Holmquist wrote:
>> >                                 >
>> >                                 >         > they look pretty good.
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         > i'm sure once we start
>> >                                 >         > implementing it, there
>> >                                 >         > will be tweaks.
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         > not sure if this is
>> >                                 >         > important at this point,
>> >                                 >         >  but will this Admin UI
>> >                                 >         > also receive
>> >                                 >         > notifications, like when
>> >                                 >         > someone starts the
>> >                                 >         > installed app for the
>> >                                 >         > first time and registers
>> >                                 >         > their device token?
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         > On May 23, 2013, at 8:43
>> >                                 >         > AM, Matthias Wessendorf
>> >                                 >         > <matzew at apache.org> wrote:
>> >                                 >         >
>> >                                 >         > > Hello,
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > > a few weeks ago, I
>> >                                 >         > > started to create a
>> >                                 >         > > (clickable) MockUp for
>> >                                 >         > > our Admin UI.
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > >
>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > > It is (currently) based
>> >                                 >         > > on Bootstrap, because of
>> >                                 >         > > my 'awesome' CSS/Design
>> >                                 >         > > skillz.
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > > However, the cover the
>> >                                 >         > > functionality.
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > > Any thoughts about
>> >                                 >         > > these? I am also
>> >                                 >         > > interested in moving
>> >                                 >         > > them forward, to that we
>> >                                 >         > > can give the PushEE
>> >                                 >         > > server an UI :)
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > > Thanks,
>> >                                 >         > > Matthias
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > > --
>> >                                 >         > > Matthias Wessendorf
>> >                                 >         > >
>> >                                 >         > > blog:
>> >                                 >         > >
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>> >                                 >         > > twitter:
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>> >
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