[aerogear-dev] AeroGear.org - a first thought on changing our roadmap docs

Andres Galante agalante at redhat.com
Mon Dec 15 14:22:30 EST 2014 

On the roadmap page there is a place to show the latest jira and github activity:
http://andresgalante.com/aerogearwebsite/roadmap.html

I'll adapt that to show a more extensive roadmap of epics

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Le 15 déc. 2014 à 17:41, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew at apache.org > a écrit : 






On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Lukáš Fryč < lukas.fryc at gmail.com > wrote: 


+1 to having JIRA as single source of truth 


Eventually, we can really poll the JIRA REST API during the site build and populate the roadmap (together with linking to it). 

E.g. list all Epics associated with the given version on the built site, 
and link to the full roadmap. 


ok - that's an option, we could look into. 
+1 to show the epics 








On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew at apache.org > wrote: 




On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Andres Galante < agalante at redhat.com > wrote: 

Can't we have some kind of aggregator that reads the roadmaps from JIRA and print it on the website? 

Not sure. Since JIRA is the main tool to manage and plan releases, let's link straight to it. That's also the place where users actually would file tickets (e.g. bugs or feature requests) 

-M 





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From: "Daniel Bevenius" < daniel.bevenius at gmail.com > 
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Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:08:31 AM 
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> First step: replace existing roadmaps with links to JIRAs, where possible. 

>Next step: re-think the entire roadmaps section. I am currently on that, and it's not 100% yet clear, what's best. Once I have more on this, I will share thoughts 
Sounds good! 

On 15 December 2014 at 15:05, Matthias Wessendorf < matzew at apache.org > wrote: 



Hey, 

that's what I am currently looking at - by doing the analysis of the site, I noticed that our current roadmap docs just duplicate info from JIRA 

First step: replace existing roadmaps with links to JIRAs, where possible. 

Next step: re-think the entire roadmaps section. I am currently on that, and it's not 100% yet clear, what's best. Once I have more on this, I will share thoughts 



On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Bruno Oliveira < bruno at abstractj.org > wrote: 

Alright, let's think about the following scenario. I'm a newcomer, going 
aerogear.org to learn more about AeroGear and want to know what's planned for the future 
releases. Where should I look? 

On 2014-12-15, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: 
> On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Bruno Oliveira < bruno at abstractj.org > wrote: 
> > 
> > Speaking from the security side of the things, to me is impossible to 
> > have a feature driven roadmap, because it's a cross cutting concern. 
> > 
> 
> right :-) 
> 
> looking at [1] I see different types of roadmaps 
> 
> 1) Project roadmap 
> 2) Platform roadmaps (e.g. Android, Cordova, iOS and JS) 
> 3) cross cutting concerns (e.g. security) 
> 4) specific roadmaps (E.g. UPS/WebPush or even the WebSite roadmap) 
> 
> 
> And that's fine :) For now, I'd really just like to get rid of the pages 
> that basically duplicate info, available on JIRA :-) 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > About removing the roadmap from website, as long as we make it clear 
> > por people outside AeroGear, I'm fine. 
> > 
> > On 2014-12-15, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: 
> > > Hi team, 
> > > 
> > > while thinking about restructuring our roadmaps, I was wondering about 
> > our 
> > > existing roadmaps on [1]. Overall I'd like to have the AG roadmaps more 
> > > feature driven, but that requires some more thoughts/changes? 
> > > 
> > > However, here is what I am wondering about... 
> > > 
> > > Most of our roadmaps we link to from [1], are really just pointing to 
> > > different JIRAs. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Let's take one example, UPS: 
> > > https://aerogear.org/docs/planning/roadmaps/UnifiedPush/ 
> > > 
> > > Basically all info on the above page is present in JIRA (including the 
> > > 'archived' roadmap of older releases). Since JIRA should be the central 
> > > tool for planing releases, features and future versions, I think that our 
> > > roadmap docs are not adding too much value, since they repeat info that 
> > is 
> > > available on a different place (JIRA). 
> > > 
> > > Also, maintaining the roadmaps is tedious: You make a change on the 
> > actual 
> > > JIRA (e.g. move the date of a release or add a new feature). To keep the 
> > > roadmap up-to-date, you put the same info on the roadmap doc and send a 
> > PR. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Can we remove these roadmap docs? 
> > > 
> > > For UPS that would mean, that the link on [1] would go against: 
> > > 
> > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:versions-panel 
> > > 
> > > instead of here: 
> > > https://aerogear.org/docs/planning/roadmaps/UnifiedPush/ 
> > > 
> > > -Matthias 
> > > 
> > > [1] https://aerogear.org/docs/planning/ 
> > > 
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