[aerogear-dev] AeroGear.js without jQuery Discussion

[Sebastien Blanc]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>wrote:

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> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com>wrote:
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>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com>wrote:
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>>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:10 AM, tolis emmanouilidis <tolisemm at gmail.com>
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>>> 2014-03-24 15:39 GMT+02:00 Matthias Wessendorf <matzew at apache.org>:
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>>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com>wrote:
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>>>>>  I agree that it would be nice to implement AGJS-70<https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGJS-70> (Investigate
>>>>> removing jQuery requirement). Meanwhile, there is an open source project on
>>>>> GitHub that claims to offer a custom builder for jQuery in order to include
>>>>> only the modules needed [1] [2]. I haven't tried it yet but maybe we could
>>>>> create a custom jQuery build which includes only the parts currently needed
>>>>> in AeroGear. This would mean a smaller size of the jQuery dependency.
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>>>>> The AG lib depends on a few parts of jQuery, the biggest being
>>>>> jQuery.Ajax and the promise implementation.
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>>>>> i know we can make custom builds of jQuery pretty easily( building
>>>>> from source ),  but i don't really want to bundle it within our lib.
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>>>>> and i don't think with bower we can do this easily. although they did
>>>>> just add a post install hook, so perhaps that could be something to look at.
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>>>>> Datamanager only uses the promise implementation of jQuery( and some
>>>>> random thing for the filter method,  which could probably be updated ).
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>>>>  Promises are starting to become available natively in browsers and
>>>>> jQuery doesn't use the Promise/A+ spec,  so it could be harder to fallback
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>>> Good to know. Thanks for providing this info.
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>>>> sounds reasonable to 'wait' on the promise side of things, and use that
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>>> there are other promise implementations that we could use, that are to
>>> spec,  such as Q and RSVP,  here is the link to the HTML5 rocks article
>>> http://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/es6/promises/
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>> These last days I have been playing with the library When provided by
>> Cujo, it's maybe also worth looking https://github.com/cujojs/when
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> not sure I see value in using a different library as a temporary thing.
> Once the API is part of the browser platform, the need for [yet another js
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I know but I'm more concerned about  "Once the API is part of the browser
platform" When will that happen and does it match with our roadmap ? Was
also to offer a polyfill for older browser if we want to keep supporting
them.


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>>>>> while i don't really want to reinvent the wheel in terms of Ajax,  it
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>>>>  Yeah, IMO worth to look there, for reducing dependencies
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>>>>>   I think in a previous ML thread about what 2.0 looked like,  that
>>>>> Pipeline would maybe just be a JSON only thing, with exception for multipart
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>>> @Lucas Thanks for making things clear
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