[aerogear-dev] Eating our own dog food, or ShootAnsShare

Wed Nov 5 09:03:35 EST 2014

Nice Corinne!

On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com>
wrote:

> coolio
> > On Nov 5, 2014, at 6:44 AM, Corinne Krych <corinnekrych at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Guys
> >
> > ShootAnsShare made it to AppStore:
> >
> https://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=934441151&mt=8
> >
> > One remaining task to be able to post to Facebook is to make Facebook
> Shoot App production ready. I’ve just added privacy policy page and I’m
> waiting for approval (within 7 days).
> >
> > ++
> > Corinne
> >
> > On 10 Oct 2014, at 16:48, Daniel Passos <daniel at passos.me> wrote:
> >
> >> Jira created
> >>
> >> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Bruno Oliveira <bruno at abstractj.org>
> wrote:
> >> On 2014-10-10, Daniel Passos wrote:
> >>> Hi guys,
> >>>
> >>> Yep, In Android land we have secret request and qrcode scan.
> >>>
> >>> 1) May be is a good idea remove the secret request?
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGDROID-299
> >>
> >>>
> >>> 2) In related news, today we not store the secret. I think store that
> >>> before publish is a good thing to do
> >>
> >> +1 Feel free to file jiras and assign to me if you want.
> >>
> >> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGDROID-300
> >>
> >>> -- Passos
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:47 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <
> matzew at apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Corinne Krych <
> corinnekrych at gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Same here Bruno I would like to publish Shoot, in its Swift version
> to
> >>>>> apple store.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 that is even useful :)
> >>>> so not a "demo" at all.
> >>>>
> >>>> Great idea!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> We have a ticket to enhance it with an iOS photo sharing dialog. Once
> >>>>> this one is done, let's submit.
> >>>>> For the app store I might limit it to Facebook and Google+, to start
> with.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ++
> >>>>> Corinne
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10 October 2014 08:48, Christos Vasilakis <cvasilak at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> answers inline
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Oct 9, 2014, at 11:42 PM, Bruno Oliveira <bruno at abstractj.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No way, Matthias. OTP must be always offline. To retrieve the
> shared
> >>>>>>> secret, we scan the QR Code.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Maybe the iOS demo is doing it (have to revisit and confirm)[1].
> >>>>>>> On Android, I'm pretty much sure that QR Code scanning was already
> >>>>>>> implemented.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> revisiting this, I can see indeed on iOS the shared secret is
> retrieved
> >>>>>> from the server and that is only the option offered. Our Android
> example
> >>>>>> offers both options, either from server, or using QR code scanning,
> so
> >>>>>> implementing the latter on our iOS demo need to be also done.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> created to track it :
> >>>>>> https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGIOS-289
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We don't need to be perfect, get what is already done, improve if
> >>>>>>> possible or release what is already done.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1 for releasing on the app store. My fear is, as Matthias said
> earlier,
> >>>>>> the ‘demo’ aspect, but with a nice description/walkthrough
> submission
> >>>>>> details, maybe there is chance.. and tbh I have seen far far
> simplest apps
> >>>>>> accepted on their store.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -
> >>>>>> Christos
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> [1] -
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-otp-ios-demo/blob/5b23acbaf5c3cd74377efdd483b43a65befb11ee/AeroGear-OTP-Demo/AeroGear-OTP-Demo/Utilities/AGOTPClient.m#L63
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2014-10-09, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 5:26 PM, Bruno Oliveira <
> bruno at abstractj.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 2014-10-09, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Bruno Oliveira <
> bruno at abstractj.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Good morning,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> TOTP was implemented on AeroGear for iOS[1] and Android[2] two
> >>>>>> years
> >>>>>>>>>>> ago. On conferences most of the developers get amazed with our
> API.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It's always great feedback when I show the OTP demo. Attendees
> at
> >>>>>>>>>> conferences love it!
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Although we don't have any app published on Google Play or App
> >>>>>> Store. I
> >>>>>>>>>>> think it's time to release our demos and get some feedback
> from our
> >>>>>>>>>>> community.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> with release, what do you mean? Submit to the stores?
> >>>>>>>>>> On Apple one reason we never submitted anything to their App
> Store
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>>> rules clearly indicate no demos are allowed in there.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I understand, it can be a real and non paid app. Once it does not
> >>>>>> depends
> >>>>>>>>> on
> >>>>>>>>> internet connection at this moment.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> isn't the iOS OTP "demo" connecting to a JAX-RS backend for the
> >>>>>> tokens?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Into this way we can exercise things like:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> - Properly store the shared secret
> >>>>>>>>>>> - Password protection with offline authentication
> >>>>>>>>>>> - If we are very confident, sync the TOTPs across authorized
> >>>>>> devices
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> At the moment, we don't need to do so much once most of our
> demos
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>>>>>>> already on GH.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> The only thing is perhaps making sure the backend part of our
> OTP
> >>>>>> demo is
> >>>>>>>>>> (always) up :)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I think it's just the matter of release it.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I like giving these nice demos, and their used AeroGear
> technology,
> >>>>>> some
> >>>>>>>>>> more love and visibility.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] - https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-otp-ios-demo
> >>>>>>>>>>> [2] - https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-otp-android-demo
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> abstractj
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> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/
> >>>>>>>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
> >>>>>>>>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/mwessendorf
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf
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> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Matthias Wessendorf
> >>>>
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