[aerogear-dev] Beyond SimplePush's simplicity

[Lucas Holmquist]

> On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Lukáš Fryč <lukas.fryc at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Clarification: this was meant as UnifiedPushClient extension, rather then SimplePush's one (bad wording)

i think i might still be a no,  because of storing messages

> 
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Lucas Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com <mailto:lholmqui at redhat.com>> wrote:
> I vote no for this.
> 
> I think storing messages, for any period of time is bad.
> 
> I think SimplePush should stay “Simple” and we should follow the spec on this. 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Sebastien Blanc <scm.blanc at gmail.com <mailto:scm.blanc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm just worried about storing the message, for stuff like privacy, for instance. Let's make a really short TTL or better let's delete the mesage right after it has been retrieved.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Lukáš Fryč <lukas.fryc at gmail.com <mailto:lukas.fryc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Awesome, great to hear that SimplePush will get a native support for a full message content.
>> 
>> As Erik said, in the meantime, we could unify this behavior.
>> I have created the associated issue: https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-1073 <https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-1073>
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Erik Jan de Wit <edewit at redhat.com <mailto:edewit at redhat.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Lukáš,
>> 
>> I like that idea, because in the end our goal is to unify. And I think that the simple push protocol will be changed in the future to allow for ‘normal’ message sending. So we could fallback afterwards.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 	Erik Jan
>> 
>> On 20 Oct,2014, at 13:58 , Lukáš Fryč <lukas.fryc at gmail.com <mailto:lukas.fryc at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> 
>>> I'm working on a demo of UPS pushing to iOS, Android, Windows, as well as Firefox OS using our Cordova plugin.
>>> 
>>> But as you know, with FFOS it is not that simple - since SimplePush protocol allows to transfer just incremental versions, we are not able to deliver any interesting message.
>>> 
>>> UnifiedPush Server could be a correct place where we unify and shield our users from this limitation:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> my idea is storing the message on UPS under the SimplePush endpoint URL. Once the message with version reaches the client, he would contact UPS to retrieve this message under a key ( pushEndpoint, version ).
>>> 
>>> The messages could have default built-in TTL to allow periodic cleanup.
>>> 
>>> What do you think?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> ~ Lukas
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