[aerogear-dev] AeroGear Messaging

Summers Pittman supittma at redhat.com
Wed Apr 22 08:06:13 EDT 2015


On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Erik Jan de Wit <edewit at redhat.com> wrote:

> So when I think IoT, I would think one of the challenges would be that
> you have a lot of things. So what would be useful would be a way to
> discover these devices on the network maybe?
>

What type of network?

I know with TCP/IP there are some utilities for finding things on your
local subnet.  There are also things wifi direct does but I am not familiar
with them.

What type of protocol do the iBeacon family of devices use over BLE?


> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Burr Sutter <bsutter at redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Summers Pittman <supittma at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Burr Sutter <bsutter at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> We already have ActiveMQ, a message broker that will deal with things
> like
> >> “durable subscriptions”, holding messages until the subscriber wakes up
> and
> >> acknowledges receipt.
> >>
> >> There is also Mosca as a Node.js-based MQTT focused message broker.
> >>
> >> There will be a wide spectrum of Things - from most distributed edge
> >> sensors with energy harvesting (smart dust)  to robust “gateway” servers
> >> that look a lot like your typical datacenter server today.   It is
> currently
> >> unclear to me which of the application protocols will “win”.  At this
> >> moment, MQTT is a winner (great support from numerous vendors) and I
> feel
> >> that CoAP will be a winner as well.
> >> AMQP or DDS may win on the beefier gateways but not so much edge
> >> intelligent things.
> >
> >
> > MQTT seems to work pretty OK on Android (last I checked).
> >
> > What type of messaging APIs would be useful on mobile hosts?  I
> >
> >
> > I am not sure…lots of folks here to provide some insights :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Does an IOT webapp even make sense? (There is probably something to be
> said
> > for ChromeOS apps)
> >
> > If the Thing is beefy enough to run a web browser then I consider it to
> be a
> > mobile use case, less an IoT use case scenario.
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Summers Pittman <supittma at redhat.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <
> matzew at apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> more something like a unified messanger platform, where we have real
> >>> messaging hooks/adapters (client/server) for protocols like AMQP,
> MQTT, XMPP
> >>> etc while having support for push notifications as well.
> >>
> >> We could probably extend the Push API. I mean it already does half the
> >> work for us ;)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> That would be nice to have, at some point
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Luke Holmquist <lholmqui at redhat.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> like Notifier?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Summers Pittman <
> supittma at redhat.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So IoT is getting a lot of attention within the company (or at least
> >>>>> within my monkeysphere).  From the demo project I've noticed that a
> lot of
> >>>>> the work is in messaging and message handling.  What do you guys
> think about
> >>>>> exploring this space more?  How does it / can it /should it fit into
> our
> >>>>> roadmap?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>
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