<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+1 (and that was what I also suggest in my first reply but maybe was not really clear :) )</blockquote><div><br></div><div>ah, ok - glad we do agree on this, now :)</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">VERY NICE !<div><br></div><div>+1<div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div><div><div>On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div><div><div>On Feb 22, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div><div>On Feb 22, 2013, at 4:04 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 9:00 PM, Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
That looks great ! <div>Maybe one suggestion, like the PipeManager holds Pipe objecst and the DataStore hold Store objects, maybe the Notifier could hold Channels ? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><pre style="width:744px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;word-wrap:break-word;padding:0px">
<font face="Consolas, Liberation Mono, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px">var myChannel = AeroGear.Notifier.addChannel(String channel);</span></font></pre></div></blockquote><div>
<br></div><div><br></div><div>You still want to give that 'channel' object a "notification listener:</div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">var myChannel = AeroGear.Notifier.addChannel(</span><span style="font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;font-size:12px;line-height:16px;white-space:pre-wrap">String channel, func callback);</span></div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre style="width:744px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;word-wrap:break-word;padding:0px"><font face="Consolas, Liberation Mono, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px">
myChannel.onMessage(data);</span></font></pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div>that onMEssage would be only invoked by the 'underlying' app; Or what do you mean?</div><div><br></div><div>You registered callback receives the payload/</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre style="width:744px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;word-wrap:break-word;padding:0px">
<font face="Consolas, Liberation Mono, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px">
myChannel.publishMessage(data);</span></font></pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Usually it's nicer of the object just sets the 'channel' - even JMS does allow you this:</div><div><br></div><div>
<a href="http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17802_01/products/products/jms/javadoc-102a/javax/jms/TopicPublisher.html" target="_blank">http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E17802_01/products/products/jms/javadoc-102a/javax/jms/TopicPublisher.html</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>send(topic, msg);</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre style="width:744px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;word-wrap:break-word;padding:0px">
<div><font face="Consolas, Liberation Mono, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px"><br></span></font></div>
<div><font face="Consolas, Liberation Mono, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px">And maybe pushing the concept further, the notifier could hold "clients" which holds channels ... </span></font></div>
</pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Not really sure we need to build all this around it;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>Most libs (that we may wrap: vertx, stomp.js) don't do that... and we would add (I guess) un-needed API code…</div>
</div></blockquote>The reason I would say we need this is that it would better match our other modular APIs</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not sure that's a too strong reason;</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"> and allow for easier creation, management and use of multiple messaging services. I'm imagining someone building a stock trading app that has a messaging system with their back end but they also want the app to subscribe to a stock ticker type messaging service. This would allow for a single point for managing those connections.<br>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>You can still subscribe to multiple 'channels':</div><div>notifier.subscribe("channelA", callbackOne);</div><div>notifier.subscribe("channelB", callbackTwo);</div>
<div><br></div><div>I understand that you want to organize the 'channels' in some sorta system; but... the problem is:</div><div>Most lib's don't do that - so we would have to add "management" code for the underlying libraries, right ? </div>
<div>Not sure that's good use of time - and since most libs don't store all the channels in some management - there may be a reason, why messaging libs are not doing it</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>
</div>Organization is more a side-effect. I guess my concern is how do I have a vert.x backed notifier and an atmosphere backed notifier in the same app? I think it would be nice for users if they can create both of those in a single statement and just specify which type as an option rather than having to create them separately with 2 different notifiers.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>can u share some pseudo code ?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div>How about something like this? <a href="https://gist.github.com/kborchers/8a8c43a2f927357c467c" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/kborchers/8a8c43a2f927357c467c</a><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">
<div> I guess it's not a huge deal I just thought it would add some convenience.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>sounds reasonable, but with some code it's easier ;-)</div><div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div>
<div>-M</div><div> </div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_quote">
<div><br></div><div>-M</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><pre style="width:744px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;word-wrap:break-word;padding:0px">
<font face="Consolas, Liberation Mono, Courier, monospace"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:16px"><br></span></font></pre><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><p style="margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:15px;margin-left:0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px;margin-top:0px!important">
Hello!</p><p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">
Today, I had a brief chat with Kris about a potential AeroGear <em>Notifier</em> Client API...</p><p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">
The basic idea is to <em>wrap</em> messaging APIs (e.g. Stomp.js, Vertx's eventbus or Socket.io/Engine.io) behind a common client 'interface'.</p><p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">
Basically the AeroGear-Notifier should be able to <em>connect</em> to a messaging system in order to <em>subscribe</em> to a channel to reveice messages from that channel. The AG-Notifier is also able to <em>publish</em> messages to ANY channel. Of course,<em>unsubscribe</em> and <em>disconnect</em> are required too...</p>
<p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">Sure... the above is not (YET) really a <em>SPEC</em>, but it's start.... the JS API of the AG-Notifier (DRAFT 0.0.1) could looks like this:</p>
<div style="line-height:20px;font-size:13.63636302947998px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;padding:0px;border:0px"><pre style="font-size:13px;line-height:19px;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;word-wrap:break-word;margin-top:15px;margin-bottom:15px;background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);overflow:auto;padding:6px 10px;border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px">
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic">/**</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> * Connects to a given URL. The callback is invoked after a connection has been established. In case of an error, an Error</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> * object will be passed to the callback</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> */</span>
<span>AeroGear</span><span>.</span><span>Notifier</span><span>.</span><span>connect</span><span>(</span><span style="color:rgb(0,134,179)">String</span> <span>url</span><span>,</span> <span style="font-weight:bold">function</span> <span>callback</span><span>);</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic">/**</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> * Tears down the connection. The callback is invoked after a connection has been closed. In case of an error, an</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> * Error object will be passed to the callback</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> */</span>
<span>AeroGear</span><span>.</span><span>Notifier</span><span>.</span><span>disconnect</span><span>(</span><span style="font-weight:bold">function</span> <span>callback</span><span>);</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic">/**</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> * Subscribes to a channel. The callback function is invoked for every message, received on the given channel.</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> */</span>
<span>AeroGear</span><span>.</span><span>Notifier</span><span>.</span><span>subscribe</span><span>(</span><span style="color:rgb(0,134,179)">String</span> <span>channel</span><span>,</span> <span style="font-weight:bold">function</span> <span>callback</span><span>);</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic">/**</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> * Removes the subscription of the given channel.</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> */</span>
<span>AeroGear</span><span>.</span><span>Notifier</span><span>.</span><span>unsubscribe</span><span>(</span><span style="color:rgb(0,134,179)">String</span> <span>channel</span><span>);</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic">/**</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> * Publishes a message to a given channel</span>
<span style="color:rgb(153,153,136);font-style:italic"> */</span>
<span>AeroGear</span><span>.</span><span>Notifier</span><span>.</span><span>publish</span><span>(</span><span style="color:rgb(0,134,179)">String</span> <span>channel</span><span>,</span> <span style="color:rgb(0,134,179)">Object</span> <span>message</span><span>);</span>
</pre></div><p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">Perhaps a <em>STATE-MASHINE</em> would be nice as well:</p><div style="line-height:20px;font-size:13.63636302947998px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;padding:0px;border:0px">
<pre style="font-size:13px;line-height:19px;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;word-wrap:break-word;margin-top:15px;margin-bottom:15px;background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);overflow:auto;padding:6px 10px;border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px">
<span>AeroGear</span><span>.</span><span>Notifier</span><span>.</span><span>CONNECTING</span> <span style="font-weight:bold">=</span> <span style="color:rgb(0,153,153)">0</span><span>;</span>
<span>AeroGear</span><span>.</span><span>Notifier</span><span>.</span><span>OPEN</span> <span style="font-weight:bold">=</span> <span style="color:rgb(0,153,153)">1</span><span>;</span>
<span>AeroGear</span><span>.</span><span>Notifier</span><span>.</span><span>CLOSING</span> <span style="font-weight:bold">=</span> <span style="color:rgb(0,153,153)">2</span><span>;</span>
<span>AeroGear</span><span>.</span><span>Notifier</span><span>.</span><span>CLOSED</span> <span style="font-weight:bold">=</span> <span style="color:rgb(0,153,153)">3</span><span>;</span>
</pre></div><h2 style="margin:20px 0px 10px;padding:0px;font-size:24px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif"><a name="13d02e132c36d5f7_13d02de31dea98ff_13d02c2e80bec476_13d02176967e4563_13d0205d9d45b7da_13cfe5851a823e8f_13cfdd5a0e71af03_implementation-of-the-adapters" href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/bd4f3c41e1114c225eb1#implementation-of-the-adapters" style="color:rgb(65,131,196);text-decoration:initial;display:block;padding-left:30px" target="_blank"></a>Implementation of the Adapters</h2>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:0px!important">The different adapter implementations will be done separately: <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">ag-notifier-vertx.js</code>...</div>
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