<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:15 PM, <a href="mailto:tech4j@gmail.com">tech4j@gmail.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tech4j@gmail.com" target="_blank">tech4j@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">A few small comments, because I think this is looking pretty good.<div><br></div><div>* At first glance I like the idea of having it be a registry instead of a manager. In some ways that makes it more obvious this a logical construct.</div>
<div><br></div><div>* Another use case: "Other services inside of JBoss could use the push manager/registry, for example the admin console, Errai, drools, etc..."</div><div>** I.e. not just for end user apps</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I think that's what I tried to address with this statement: "We want that any (JBoss/AeroGear powered) mobile application, that is backed by JBoss technology, is able to easily work with push messages. For a JBoss "backend application" it should be as simple as possible, to send messages to its different mobile clients"</div>
<div><br></div><div>==> should not be tied to a specific backend; For instance a JSF managed bean you use the "Sender" as well - to push out messages to 'its' configured mobile apps (on the registration)</div>
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<div><br></div><div>* The non-native push (JS, "connected" apps, etc...) imo would/should be separate and part of AeroGear proper. I think having both functions in this one shared service would make it too complex, and hard to cover other groups use-cases. As I see it for AeroGear - we receive a msg/event/trigger that we want to send to clients. The API allows developers to say "send msg to x, y, z users/devices". AeroGear checks for any apps that are "connected" and sends a non-native push msg to those clients. AeroGear then determines who did not get a "connected" msg (that may be tricky), and uses the API your defining to send those users native push msg. </div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>You mean breaking into two components?</div><div>- native push</div><div>- web based push </div><div><br></div><div>and an overall API on top that 'aggregates'? </div><div> </div>
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<div><br></div><div>** The API would have a way to set only "connected", only native, etc... as well.</div><div><br></div><div><div>* In the future and maybe as a POC that this can work with non-aerogear clients we could see about getting push messages setup with Christos' JBoss admin app with this. Not a priority, but an idea :-)</div>
</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:48 AM, Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Great Job,<div>see my comments inline.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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As discussed on the earlier theard, we have some raw APIs... Below a little summary:</p><p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">
We have a <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">UnifiedPushManager(.java)</code> defined, which is basically a registry for "push enabled" apps (<code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">PushApplication.java</code>). Such a <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">PushApplication</code> is a logical construct on the backend which is allowed/enabled to send notifications to mobile clients. One example could be the "Twitter Backend" (e.g. for push notification on direct messages).</p>
</blockquote></div><div>As you said the manager is here more a registry than a manager in the current state, maybe we should have a <b>PushApplicationRegistry</b> interface which has as only responsibility to hold the register state, </div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Can you gist ?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Take a look at my fork <a href="https://github.com/sebastienblanc/ag-unified-push-api/tree/registry" target="_blank">https://github.com/sebastienblanc/ag-unified-push-api/tree/registry</a> ;) </div>
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<div>the implementation of the registry will connect to the chosen persistence unit (JPA/Mongo/Oracle ...). </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Not sure I really want to that - now :) I am (for first iteration) fine to have something running, instead of being that flexible and be able to go with any existing "data source" :-)</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Well, for sure, for the first iteration we will provide a default implementation. </div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>This way we could have a concrete implementation of the <b>UnifiedPushManager</b> than can be used by different backend/customers (think DRY) , they just have to inject the needed <b>PushApplicationRegistry</b> implementation. </div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Not sure what exactly you mean - perhaps a gist / pseudo code is helpful here too ?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Again, my fork should help you understanding <a href="https://github.com/sebastienblanc/ag-unified-push-api/tree/registry" target="_blank">https://github.com/sebastienblanc/ag-unified-push-api/tree/registry</a> but basically, it is the same as your code except I apply the delegate pattern. </div>
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Now each of the <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">PushApplication</code> can have a few mobile applications, that receive those push messages (e.g. the offical Twitter iOS client and the offical Twitter Android client). These "mobile apps" are represented - on the server - with the <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">MobileApplication.java</code> class. Usually there is only one iOS app and one Android... <strong>BUT</strong> imagine the case of a "paid/premium app" versus a free app (e.g. something like TwitterPro-iOS and Twitter-free-iOS... <strong>NOTE</strong>: there is NOTHING like that, I just made these two apps up, to explain the concept).</p>
<p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">Of course there are several installations of the iOS(and Android...) app. Each installation is represented with the<code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">MobileApplicationInstance.java</code> class. Each installation is registered by a "device registration service": The actual app on the device submits its token/regId (and some other infos) to a HTTP endpoint....</p>
<p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">Now the <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">UnifiedPushManager(.java)</code> is the central API to <em>register</em> PushApps and their mobile views, including (device)registration of installations (-> <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">MobileApplication</code> and <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">MobileApplicationInstance</code>).</p>
<p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">Any backend app, can now use the <strong>Sender API</strong> to actually send the message to these different devices/appications, from the UnifiedPushManager, assuming they have permission :-)</p>
<p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">A simple example is here (java code for registration AND sending); Note it's a Unit test.......: <a href="https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/test/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/UnifiedPushManagerTest.java#L41-L81" style="color:rgb(65,131,196);text-decoration:none" target="_blank">https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/test/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/UnifiedPushManagerTest.java#L41-L81</a></p>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Maybe the <b>Sender</b> interface should be an attribute of the <b>PushManager</b>, the customer can set his <b>Sender</b> impl (pushManager.setSender(...) ) and the UnifiedManager act as a facade for the "sending" actions. </div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>Hrm - you really think folks will write their own "Senders"? I think... if they want to add support for "Windows Mobile", they just have to extend the abstract MobileApplicationImpl and implement it's send() to talk to the Windows Push infrastrucuture</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Again, we will provide a default sender implementation. But I seee indedd issues, having a single senders for different platforms , hum, let me think about this ;) </div></div>
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<p>the Sender() is an aggregate of the different mobile Application's "send()" - it will enqueue the message for the different platforms </p><p><br></p><p>thanks for the feedback - will check ur fork</p><span><font color="#888888">
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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>PERHAPS... just using interfaces was confusing - there will be concrete classes (first impl is in the TEST project (see other thread)), but the interfaces are a highlevel view of the "domain model"</div>
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<h2 style="margin:20px 0px 10px;padding:0px;font-size:24px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204);font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif"><a name="13d6dfa264cd43cd_13d6db179c7023fa_13d6d976136e05f9_13d6d7cd49850b05_13d6d73b500b2020_13d6d4dfd3ec7340_so-far-so-good---but-why-this-abstraction-" href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/73d478a42c093e21a6b9#so-far-so-good---but-why-this-abstraction-" style="color:rgb(65,131,196);text-decoration:none;display:block;padding-left:30px" target="_blank"></a>So far, so good - but why this abstraction ????</h2>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px"><strong>Goal</strong>: We want that any (JBoss/AeroGear powered) mobile application, that is backed by JBoss technology, is able to easily work with push messages. For a JBoss "backend application" it should be as simple as possible, to send messages to its different mobile clients</p>
<h3 style="margin:20px 0px 10px;padding:0px;font-size:18px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif"><a name="13d6dfa264cd43cd_13d6db179c7023fa_13d6d976136e05f9_13d6d7cd49850b05_13d6d73b500b2020_13d6d4dfd3ec7340_some-scenarios" href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/73d478a42c093e21a6b9#some-scenarios" style="color:rgb(65,131,196);text-decoration:none;display:block;padding-left:30px" target="_blank"></a>Some Scenarios</h3>
<ul style="margin:15px 0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 30px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px"><li>MyWarehouseInc-backend can send messages to different "customer" groups (e.g. discounts for only iOS (or only Android) users).</li>
<li>MyInsuranceCorp-backend can send important "info messages" to diffenrent variants of its mobile Applications (e.g. to the MyInsuranceCustomer-APP (regardless of the OS) AND to the app for their own agents (MyInsuranceAgent-APP))</li>
<li>MyPublishing-Company-backend sends updates to all of its apps (free and premium - regardless of the mobile OS). Advanced content is only push to the paying customers...</li><li>A company has different backends (small apps for different tasks) - and these different backends could be able to reach all of the company's mobile apps</li>
</ul><p style="margin:15px 0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px">So... the <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">Sender</code> somewhat acts as a broker (for accessable apps on the 'registry' <code style="font-size:12px;line-height:normal;font-family:Consolas,'Liberation Mono',Courier,monospace;margin:0px 2px;padding:0px 5px;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-top-left-radius:3px;border-top-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-right-radius:3px;border-bottom-left-radius:3px;white-space:nowrap">UnifiedPushManager</code>)...</p>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Maybe we should define some kind of "Application" Collection, as smart/specific Java Collection implementation to be able to create easily groups of apps etc .. just a rough idea that needs to be cleaned up ;)</div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>Something like that would be neat, for more advanced queries / selection etc</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>We could have a (very) simple query language specific for Push Apps, like hibernate, we could query by example. In my fork you will see an extremely basic Query object ... </div>
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BTW... none!!!!!!! of the API names are final - happy to hear better names!!!</p><p style="margin-top:15px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:0px!important">
Please provide feedback (here and on the other thread), for missing/wrong/good items.!</p><p style="margin-top:15px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:13.63636302947998px;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:0px!important">
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<br></p><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
here is, including device registration:<div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/test/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/UnifiedPushManagerTest.java#L41-L81" target="_blank">https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/test/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/UnifiedPushManagerTest.java#L41-L81</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>All hammered in java... since this is a test - most of the code will be executed, when interacting with HTTP endpoints of the thing;</div><div><br></div><div>Yes, there is no JS application in the test - but we do have an abstraction interface for it:</div>
<div><a href="https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/application/ConnectedJavaScriptApplication.java" target="_blank">https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/application/ConnectedJavaScriptApplication.java</a></div>
<div><br></div><div>Connected? Since only "online" JS clients are receiving message - there no real "push to device" for the JS world...</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div>
</font></span><div><span><font color="#888888">-Matthias</font></span><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Pushed FIRST/TEST impl + actually test case.....<div><br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api" target="_blank">https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api</a></div><div><br></div><div>YEs.... I have 'xxx'd out the KEY and certs :) <div>
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My UNIT test looks (currently) like:<div><br></div><div><a href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/3d7f9915afd8f6705da5" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/matzew/3d7f9915afd8f6705da5</a></div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
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<div>-M</div></font></span><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM, <a href="mailto:tech4j@gmail.com" target="_blank">tech4j@gmail.com</a> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tech4j@gmail.com" target="_blank">tech4j@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I think this is look really good!<div><br></div><div>Here some thoughts, and/or possible additional use-cases</div>
<div><br></div><div>* How do we want to handle multiple devices for one user?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Instance of 'MobileApplicationInstance'; each device has (per app) a different token;</div>
<div>What the apps do themselves, with multiple installs is something different.</div><div><br></div><div>Twitter, for instance, sends the push-messages to EVERY device - but that's app specific sync</div><div>(yes, i wish there was something like IMAP, for twitter)</div>
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<div><br></div><div>* How do we want to handle the other side of unified push (non-native)?</div><div>** Might just not be there yet, but want to make sure we're still thinking the same thing :-)</div>
<div>** Would there be an additional abstraction above this for that?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>some sub type of 'MobileApplication' can/will cover that "mobile web" (JS client) side:</div>
<div><a href="https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/application/MobileApplication.java#L23" target="_blank">https://github.com/matzew/ag-unified-push-api/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/push/application/MobileApplication.java#L23</a></div>
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<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>* I'm assuming there is no good way for apps to notify you when they are uninstalled?</div>
<div>** As a way of removing clutter in our tables.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>In apple land these are invalid tokens (see <a href="https://github.com/notnoop/java-apns/blob/master/src/main/java/com/notnoop/apns/ApnsService.java#L161" target="_blank">https://github.com/notnoop/java-apns/blob/master/src/main/java/com/notnoop/apns/ApnsService.java#L161</a>)</div>
<div>So, on a scheduled base they can be remove;</div><div><br></div><div>Google has similar API (on their MulticastResult (returned by the sender))</div><div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br></div><div>* Push filtering - I would think IDM would be very good here. </div><div>** Sending to roles, groups, etc...</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>have different users (==roles), but not spec'd out</div>
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<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>** When we store the device and app info what sub-system are you thinking?</div>
<div>*** I know you were using mongo for some of the prototyping</div><div>*** Would be possible to abstract to the IDM?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>yes, it should be possible (desirable) to use IDM - but does not really matter</div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the feedback!!!</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-Matthias</div></font></span><div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Douglas Campos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:qmx@qmx.me" target="_blank">qmx@qmx.me</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On 13/03/2013, at 10:28, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> ome more APIs, for some basic (initial) functionality:<br>
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> <a href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/c5fbc23bc97dfead46e1" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/matzew/c5fbc23bc97dfead46e1</a><br>
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</div>I like the current form, but I'm sure we'll get asked about more OO(ish) APIs, like device.send(Message) - is this on the plans?<br>
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> User/Dev enrollment can be addressed by (hopefully) reusing the ag-security.<br>
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