<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="im">On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Lucas Holmquist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div> We would need to build the server side piece into our unified push server</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yup - that's not hard; it's similar to what we have for iOS and Android; It just uses a different PushNetwork to submit to;</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>The problem is that push network doesn't exist either and I don't want to wait for the browsers to build them :) … we would need to build that as well. What I am thinking is we would build the network into our server side so that users could deploy their own PushNetwork for their apps but have the ability for the clients to use the appropriate browser PushNetwork if available. Then, we would eventually kill our PushNetwork bits when all browsers implement their own.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>This could be very cool. Like an enterprise can have their own internal push network</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Would this be "built in"( maybe the wrong word) to controller? </div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Well, maybe I'm wrong but with all the specs that Matthias did we have 90% of the bits , the 10% being a custom implementation of the Sender API, no ?</div></div></div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>I have no clue what you mean;</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>:)</div><div>For the scope, 100% web, no hybrid : in your gist you define "web push", where we offer a convenient library for doing "atomic" push operations : online chat, multiplayer game. But we could image to offer for the Web the same infrastructure (same API, concepts not same impl) as you defined for the Native Push : with Registry etc ... It will be a "degraded" service since pushing of notification will only be possible when online but still I think there can be demand for that. </div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>That's already there:</div><div style><a href="https://github.com/matzew/ag-up-poc#web-app">https://github.com/matzew/ag-up-poc#web-app</a><br></div>
<div style><br></div><div style>but I guess we are getting rid of that for the "pub/sub" (web push), which is the original motiviation of Kris' email - and I was also not too happy with that "100% Web" integration on the push server;</div>
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<h2 style="margin:20px 0px 10px;padding:0px;font-size:24px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-bottom-style:solid;border-bottom-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><a name="13df9378b2c6d606_13df92d2b8726b59_13df9171643bb7b2_13df911bba3f5612_13df8ea34079f555_web-push" href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/17f793e4be11473423d2#web-push" style="color:rgb(65,131,196);text-decoration:none;display:block;padding-left:30px" target="_blank"></a>Web Push</h2>
<p style="margin:0px 0px 15px;font-size:13.63636302947998px;font-weight:normal;line-height:20px">The <em>Web Push</em> allows a low-latency message exchange between <em>connected</em> (read: <em>online</em>) clients and the server. This is usually realized with technologies like WebSocket (or robust fallbacks like SockJS). Once a client application connects, it can exchange (receive and send) messages with the server (and other clients). Messages have no restrictions in terms of size of content (JSON, binary). While technoques like SockJS provide a <em>socket connection</em> between the client and the server, it is desired to have a more high-level API, to be used for the communication (e.g. Stomp).</p>
<p style="margin:15px 0px;font-size:13.63636302947998px;font-weight:normal;line-height:20px">Initially, Clients that are offline are <strong>NOT</strong> receiving messages. Messages are not persisted and stored, to be delivered later.</p>
<h3 style="margin:20px 0px 10px;padding:0px;font-size:18px"><a name="13df9378b2c6d606_13df92d2b8726b59_13df9171643bb7b2_13df911bba3f5612_13df8ea34079f555_supported-client-platforms-1" href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/17f793e4be11473423d2#supported-client-platforms-1" style="color:rgb(65,131,196);text-decoration:none;display:block;padding-left:30px" target="_blank"></a>Supported client platforms</h3>
<ul style="margin-top:15px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;padding:0px 0px 0px 30px;font-size:13.63636302947998px;font-weight:normal;line-height:20px;margin-bottom:0px!important"><li>Android (Java client library)</li><li>
iOS (ObjC client library)</li><li>JavaScript (JS client library, to be used in browsers and hybrid containers)</li></ul><h1 style="font-size:28px;margin:0px 0px 10px;padding:0px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif">
<br></h1><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">Thoughts? The original gist is store here: </span></div><div><font face="Helvetica, arial, freesans, clean, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px;line-height:20px"><a href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/17f793e4be11473423d2" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/matzew/17f793e4be11473423d2</a></span></font><br>
</div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica,arial,freesans,clean,sans-serif;font-size:14px;line-height:20px">-Matthias</span></div>
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