<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Yes , i.e a common use case, we want to delete comment with id 5 from blog post with id 2 :<br>
<div><br></div><div>DELETE /post/2/comment/5</div><div><br></div><div>With the nested endpoints has we have defined it will be something like : </div>
<div><br></div><div>pipe.remove( 2 ,</div><div>           {</div><div>            resourcePath:&quot;comment/5&quot;</div><div>           }</div><div>);</div><div><br></div><div>
Which is indeed not crystal clear. But in the same time we really need to provide a solution. </div><div>We could maybe introduce a &quot;resourcePathId&quot; ? </div><div><br></div><div>pipe.remove( 2 ,</div>
<div>           {</div><div>            resourcePath: &quot;comment&quot;,</div><div>            resourcePathId: 5 </div><div>           }</div><div>); </div><div><br></div><div>But that would only make sense for a &quot;one level&quot; nested resource ...</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>For me, that all reads &quot;delete 2&quot; :)</div><div style><br></div><div style>Not sure, but currently, that is more obvious (e.g. when you have a pipe against &quot;/post/2/comments&quot;, you just say delete(5);)</div>
<div style><br></div><div style><br></div><div style>-Matthias</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><br></div></div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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<div>On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

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</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div>I agree that the &#39;save&#39; and the &#39;remove&#39; are a bit weird (hard to understand).</div><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>-Matthias</div>
</font></span><div><div><div><br></div><div>
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<div><div>On Apr 23, 2013, at 7:33 AM, Christos Vasilakis &lt;<a href="mailto:cvasilak@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvasilak@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>

<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi,<div><br></div><div>as I implement the iOS support for nested paths,  and in particular &#39;save&#39; and &#39;remove&#39; a situation arises.</div><div><br>


</div><div>Consider the &#39;save&#39; operation for a new team in the following path (a pipe has been instantiated that points to &#39;leagues&#39;) :</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://soccer.org/leagues/foo/teams" target="_blank">soccer.org/leagues/foo/teams</a></div>


<div><br></div><div>To save a new team, the user must:</div><div><br></div><div>[leaguesPipe save:teamObject resourcePath:&quot;/foo/teams&quot;]</div><div><br></div><div>Notice that now, we NEED to pass the id of the league in the resourcePath for this to work(&quot;foo&quot;).  </div>


<div><br></div><div>To update an existing team, the user must:</div><div><br></div><div>[leaguesPipe save:teamObject resourcePath:&quot;/foo/teams&quot;]</div><div><br></div><div>Again the id of the leagues needs to be passed on the resourcePath</div>


<div><br></div><div>NOTE: For the update to work, teamObject is implied to have the <a href="http://config.id" target="_blank">config.id</a> set (here we assume that the teamObject has similar config_id name with league for this to work ??)</div>


<div><br></div><div>Similar for remove:</div><div><br></div><div>[leaguesPipe remove:teamObject resourcePath:&quot;/foo/teams&quot;]</div><div><br></div><div>So, for cases of &#39;save&#39; and &#39;remove&#39;, the resourcePath endpoint with the Pipe id SET must come first, and then we append the object&#39;s endpoint.</div>


<div><br></div><div>Thoughts?</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Christos</div><div><br></div><div><div>On Apr 18, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Daniel Bevenius &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel.bevenius@gmail.com" target="_blank">daniel.bevenius@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>


<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Yeah, I&#39;m all for &#39;resourcePath&#39; now that I&#39;m not as confused anymore :)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 April 2013 17:37, Christos Vasilakis <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvasilak@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvasilak@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>



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<div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 18, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Sebastien Blanc &lt;<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">So we all agreed on &quot;resourcePath&quot; ? <div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Christos Vasilakis <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:cvasilak@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvasilak@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>




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</div>have created the epic to track this, feel free to edit<div>



<br></div><div><a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1123" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1123</a></div><div><br></div><div>-</div><div>Christos</div><div><div><br></div>
<div><div><div>On Apr 16, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Daniel Bevenius &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel.bevenius@gmail.com" target="_blank">daniel.bevenius@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">doh! Sorry. I was just looking at the first examples in the gist and did not realize these could have multiple segments.</div>




<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 April 2013 15:18, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hmm, I like the idea of looking to standards but if I&#39;m reading it right, segment there means just a portion of the URI between slashes, not multiple slash-separated segments.<div>





<div><br><div><div>On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:14 AM, Daniel Bevenius &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel.bevenius@gmail.com" target="_blank">daniel.bevenius@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
I agree, when I read resourcePath I read that as a path to resource. How about pathSegment or segment as used by <a href="http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-3.3" target="_blank">http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3986#section-3.3</a> ?<br>






</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 16 April 2013 15:12, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">






<div style="word-wrap:break-word">My only issue with resourcePath is that it doesn&#39;t imply that the path is relative to the current pipe. I mean, it should be implied since you&#39;re already working with a pipe and we can be explicit about that in documentation but I still wish it was somehow in the name. I think that was the goal of using &quot;nested&quot; in the name but I already expressed my issue with that. Any other thoughts would be appreciated but I could be happy with resourcePath.<div>






<div><br><div><div>On Apr 16, 2013, at 7:55 AM, Lucas Holmquist &lt;<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">






+1 to resourcePath .   it beats my thought of &quot;superawesomenestedresourcethingy&quot;<br><div><div>On Apr 16, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Christos Vasilakis &lt;<a href="mailto:cvasilak@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvasilak@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>






<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">+1 <div><br></div><div>I think it describes the feature better.<div><br><div><br><div><div><div>On Apr 16, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Sebastien Blanc &lt;<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>






<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">+1 on the &quot;resourcePath&quot;, you nailed it ! <div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>







<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hmmm, &quot;nestedResource&quot; isn&#39;t terrible but not crazy about &quot;nested&quot; since they&#39;re not necessarily nested but just related. Hmmmmm.<div>







<br></div><div>It&#39;s not that I hate resource, I think it kind of makes sense if you know what we&#39;re talking about. How about something like &quot;resourcePath&quot; to be a little more explicit in what it is? Still not crazy about that but feel like it&#39;s better/closer to something that describes what it is.</div>







<div><br><div><div>On Apr 16, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Sebastien Blanc &lt;<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
Well, there seems to be an agreement on option #1 , except for the name &quot;resource&quot; , so let&#39;s find a name that we all agree on and so we can going further with this feature. <div>My propositions:  &quot;nestedResource&quot; , &quot;fragment&quot;, &quot;nestedURI&quot; ... But I&#39;m not really fan of all of my propositions ...</div>








<div>Seb</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Summers Pittman <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>








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  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div>With #1 is `resource` a URI?  If so,
      will developers have to build the URI by hand?<div><br>
      <br>
      On 04/10/2013 10:48 AM, Christos Vasilakis wrote:<br>
    </div></div><div>
    <blockquote type="cite">
      
      Hi
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I&#39;ve prepared a document[1]  that collectively describes the
        different approaches discussed in this thread for supporting the
        nested resources. It is split in two sections, ones that don&#39;t
        require modification to the existing API and ones that do</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Please have a look and let me know if I miss sth or interpret
        one approach wrong.</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>Thanks</div>
      <div>Christos</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>[1] <a href="https://gist.github.com/cvasilak/4a5f51b8d1ad9cc7f21b" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/cvasilak/4a5f51b8d1ad9cc7f21b</a></div>
      <div><br>
        <div>
          <div>On Apr 9, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Sebastien Blanc &lt;<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:</div>
          <br>
          <blockquote type="cite">
            <div dir="ltr">Hey,
              <div>Like paging, could we start 2 gists : one
                with a side to side techno samples and another one with
                high level Specs ? I start a bit to get lost in this
                thread :)</div>
              <div>Just one remark when reading the last
                messages, one &quot;must have&quot; is to be able to retrieve all
                the comments for a post without EVER retrieving the
                 post record, so </div>
              <div>/posts/1/comments will retrieve all the
                comments for post 1 but will actually never call posts/1
                : in this covered in your last examples ? (spec could be
                : &quot;by-pass parent GET resource&quot;</div>
              <div>
                Seb</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:03 AM,
                Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr"><br>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                        <div>On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:57 PM,
                          Summers Pittman <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                          <div><br>
                            <br>
                            ----- Original Message -----<br>
                            | From: &quot;Matthias Wessendorf&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;<br>
                            | To: &quot;AeroGear Developer Mailing List&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>&gt;<br>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div>| Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 1:22:19
                              PM<br>
                              | Subject: Re: [aerogear-dev] [Aerogear
                              Pipeline] Support for nested endpoints<br>
                              |<br>
                            </div>
                            <div>| OK, with the following server API:<br>
                              |<br>
                              | <a href="http://some.server.com/posts/1" target="_blank">http://some.server.com/posts/1</a><br>
                              | <a href="http://some.server.com/posts/1/comments" target="_blank">http://some.server.com/posts/1/comments</a><br>
                              | (and NO &#39;comments&#39; collection on the &#39; <a href="http://some.server.com/posts/1" target="_blank">http://some.server.com/posts/1</a>
                              &#39;<br>
                              | response)<br>
                              |<br>
                              | Does this (today) &#39;myPipe.read(1)&#39;
                              already read the specific comments (<br>
                            </div>
                            | <a href="http://some.server.com/posts/1/comments" target="_blank">http://some.server.com/posts/1/comments</a>
                            ) ??<br>
                            <div>|<br>
                              | ======= JAVA API =======<br>
                              | Class Post:<br>
                              | - string: id;<br>
                              | - string: title;<br>
                              | - string: postContent;<br>
                              | - List&lt;Comment&gt; comments;<br>
                              | Class Comment:<br>
                              | - string username;<br>
                              | - string comment;<br>
                              |<br>
                              | Or would the IMPL expect an &#39;embedded&#39;
                              _comments_ collection on the response<br>
                              | of &quot;GET <a href="http://some.server.com/posts/1" target="_blank">http://some.server.com/posts/1</a>
                              &quot; ?<br>
                              <span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)"> </span><br>
                            </div>
                          </div>
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                            <div>
                            </div>
                            It will not read /posts/1/comments if the
                            Pipe&#39;s endpoint is /posts.  If you have a
                            comments collection on the post but no
                            comments data in the response then the value
                            for getComments will just be null.<br>
                          </blockquote>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <div>Ok - so this needs to be tweaked in Java
                          too, since it&#39;s very common to model the REST
                          endpoints like above;</div>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
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                                | On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 7:05 PM,
                                Summers Pittman &lt; <a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | wrote:<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                | No. The get of pipe 1 would have to
                                include the comments for get comments to<br>
                                | work<br>
                                |<br>
                                | Sent from my Android phone using
                                TouchDown ( <a href="http://www.nitrodesk.com/" target="_blank">www.nitrodesk.com</a>
                                )<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                | -----Original Message-----<br>
                                | From: Matthias Wessendorf [ <a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>
                                ]<br>
                                | Received: Monday, 08 Apr 2013, 12:04PM<br>
                                | To: AeroGear Developer Mailing List [
                                <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>
                                ]<br>
                                | Subject: Re: [aerogear-dev] [Aerogear
                                Pipeline] Support for nested endpoints<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                | On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 5:57 PM,
                                Summers Pittman &lt; <a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | wrote:<br>
                                |<br>
                                | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; ----- Original Message -----<br>
                                | &gt; | From: &quot;Matthias Wessendorf&quot;
                                &lt; <a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | To: &quot;AeroGear Developer Mailing
                                List&quot; &lt; <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013
                                10:28:46 AM<br>
                                | &gt; | Subject: Re: [aerogear-dev]
                                [Aerogear Pipeline] Support for nested<br>
                                | &gt; endpoints<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | or, like before said - reading
                                &quot;lists&quot; (e.g. all the comments for<br>
                                | &gt; specific<br>
                                | &gt; | blog post):<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/04f069dfbed2cc77a8b4" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/matzew/04f069dfbed2cc77a8b4</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | For Java.... I guess......
                                resolving this URL:<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="http://some.server.com/posts/1/comments" target="_blank">http://some.server.com/posts/1/comments</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | could be done with this - right
                                ?<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | =======<br>
                                | &gt; | Class Post:<br>
                                | &gt; | - string: title;<br>
                                | &gt; | - string: postContent;<br>
                                | &gt; | - List&lt;Comment&gt; comments;<br>
                                | &gt; | Class Comment:<br>
                                | &gt; | - string username;<br>
                                | &gt; | - string comment;<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | // get all the comments for 1:<br>
                                | &gt; | Post myPostOne =
                                postPipe.read(&quot;1&quot;);<br>
                                | &gt; | myPostOne.getComments();<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | // get all the comments for 2:<br>
                                | &gt; | Post myPostTwo =
                                postPipe.read(&quot;2&quot;);<br>
                                | &gt; | myPostTwo.getComments();<br>
                                | &gt; | =======<br>
                                | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; It can be done with that yes. My
                                concern was more when we had a Pipe of<br>
                                | &gt; type &lt;Post&gt; and a
                                readForResource(String property) method.<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                | Ok - one more question<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                | So... when doing: myPipe.read(1); does
                                that &quot;only&quot; issue a GET against the &#39;<br>
                                | <a href="http://some.server.com/posts/1" target="_blank">http://some.server.com/posts/1</a>
                                &#39; resource?<br>
                                |<br>
                                | A second get, for the comments
                                collection is than issued when calling<br>
                                | myPostOne.getComments();?<br>
                                | (GET against &#39; <a href="http://some.server.com/posts/1/comments" target="_blank">http://some.server.com/posts/1/comments</a>&#39;
                                )?<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                | &gt; The type information of the
                                property isn&#39;t available unless we can
                                infer<br>
                                | &gt; it from the Post object.<br>
                                | &gt;<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Greetings,<br>
                                | &gt; | Matthias<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 2:37 PM,
                                Matthias Wessendorf &lt; <a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Thought a bit more about it and
                                chatted with friends,<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | the issue with the sub pipes
                                is: it adds state and is perhaps an API<br>
                                | &gt; | construct that is a bit hard to
                                understand (see all the discussions
                                here)<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Not sure - but currently we can
                                access &quot;kid resources&quot;, with our API -<br>
                                | &gt; right<br>
                                | &gt; | ?<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/6ab432e437b9a017a21d" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/matzew/6ab432e437b9a017a21d</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Perhaps it&#39;s better to just
                                keep it that way? This has the benefit
                                of<br>
                                | &gt; using<br>
                                | &gt; | an established and know API,
                                the different pipes are accessible via
                                the<br>
                                | &gt; | pipeline object;<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | And the code is not too much
                                code; it&#39;s simply an explicit pipe ...<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:56
                                AM, Matthias Wessendorf &lt; <a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:52
                                AM, Sebastien Blanc &lt; <a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:36
                                AM, Matthias Wessendorf &lt; <a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | On Fri, Apr 5, 2013 at 10:14
                                AM, Christos Vasilakis &lt; <a href="mailto:cvasilak@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvasilak@gmail.com</a><br>
                                | &gt; | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Hi<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | some comments<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | I believe the method can&#39;t be
                                used since you don&#39;t know the team for
                                the<br>
                                | &gt; | players so you can&#39;t retrieve
                                the pipe directly..right?<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Isn&#39;t that really up to the
                                impl of the rest service?<br>
                                | &gt; | They could return a list of
                                teamsHePlayed for;<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | So, let&#39;s not tie this API to a
                                specific, not existing RESTful service;<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | +1, we don&#39;t need to care about
                                that, we must just focus on how we can<br>
                                | &gt; | declare and call nested pipes.<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | yep<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | I guess this is perhaps the
                                closest we can come to :<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | id&lt;AGPipe&gt;
                                allOwnersInNewYorkPipe = [leaguesPipe
                                subPipe:@&quot;owners&quot;<br>
                                | &gt; | for:@&quot;newyork&quot;];<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | and than.... on the
                                &#39;leaguesPipe&#39; you can access its kids
                                with something<br>
                                | &gt; like<br>
                                | &gt; | :<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | NSArray* kids = [leaguesPipe
                                subPipes];<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | However, that adds some state
                                to a specific pipe object<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | -M<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | getPlayers ( Callback &lt; List
                                &lt; Player &gt;&gt; callback ) {<br>
                                | &gt; | pipe . get ( &quot;player&quot; ). read (
                                callback );<br>
                                | &gt; | }<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Further my questions is, how is
                                a third (or arbitrary) nested resources<br>
                                | &gt; are<br>
                                | &gt; | supported? I mean for a url
                                schema like this<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="http://soccer.org/leagues/" target="_blank">soccer.org/leagues/</a>
                                {id}/teams/{id}/players/{id}<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | first we access the leagues:<br>
                                | &gt; | ---<br>
                                | &gt; |
                                getLeagues(Callback&lt;List&lt;Leagues&gt;&gt;
                                callback) {<br>
                                | &gt; |
                                pipe.get(&quot;leagues&quot;).read(callback);<br>
                                | &gt; | }<br>
                                | &gt; | ---<br>
                                | &gt; | then the teams for this league:<br>
                                | &gt; | ---<br>
                                | &gt; | getTeamsOnLeaque(Leaque league,
                                Callback&lt;List&lt;Team&gt;&gt;
                                callback) {<br>
                                | &gt; |
                                pipe.junction(&quot;league&quot;,&quot;team&quot;).read(leaque,
                                callback);<br>
                                | &gt; | }<br>
                                | &gt; | ---<br>
                                | &gt; | ..and then we access the
                                &quot;Players&quot; for a &quot;Team&quot;:<br>
                                | &gt; | ---<br>
                                | &gt; | getPlayersOnTeam(Team team,
                                Callback&lt;List&lt;Player&gt;&gt;
                                callback) {<br>
                                | &gt; |
                                pipe.junction(&quot;team&quot;,&quot;player&quot;).read(team,
                                callback);<br>
                                | &gt; | }<br>
                                | &gt; | ---<br>
                                | &gt; | But where is the &quot;League&quot;
                                information to fill the
                                &quot;/leagues/{id}...&quot;<br>
                                | &gt; path?<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | I&#39;d assume the information is
                                &#39;inherited&#39; out of a given pipe, when<br>
                                | &gt; doing the<br>
                                | &gt; | &#39;join&#39;<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | e.g. like<br>
                                | &gt; | myTeamsForLeaguePipe =
                                leaguePipe.junction(&quot;team&quot;);<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | not sure...<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Unless you mean something like:<br>
                                | &gt; | ---<br>
                                | &gt; | getPlayersOnTeam(Leaque league,
                                Team team,
                                Callback&lt;List&lt;Player&gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; callback) {<br>
                                | &gt; | pipe.junction(&quot;league&quot;,
                                &quot;team&quot;,&quot;player&quot;).read(league, team,
                                callback);<br>
                                | &gt; | }<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | I am not sure if that is really
                                easy to understand/use<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Yes and the term &quot;junction&quot; is
                                a bit confusing as it don&#39;t express<br>
                                | &gt; explicitly<br>
                                | &gt; | a parent/child relation.<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | ---<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | probably I am missing sth..<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | Thanks,<br>
                                | &gt; | Christos<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | On Apr 4, 2013, at 5:52 PM,
                                Summers Pittman &lt; <a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | What if we create a new
                                metaphor, a Junction.<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="https://gist.github.com/secondsun/dcf5682b6ff17c729d9a" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/secondsun/dcf5682b6ff17c729d9a</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | It joins two pipes together and
                                can be used over and over again with<br>
                                | &gt; | different data?<br>
                                | &gt; | It isn&#39;t a Pipe though, but
                                perhaps that could be changed to look
                                more<br>
                                | &gt; like<br>
                                | &gt; | Christos&#39;s previous example.<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | At the very least I like the
                                words &quot;junction&quot; or &quot;join&quot; more than
                                &quot;of&quot;<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | ----- Original Message -----<br>
                                | &gt; | | From: &quot;Christos Vasilakis&quot;
                                &lt; <a href="mailto:cvasilak@gmail.com" target="_blank">cvasilak@gmail.com</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | To: &quot;AeroGear Developer
                                Mailing List&quot; &lt; <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | Sent: Wednesday, April 3,
                                2013 3:03:02 AM<br>
                                | &gt; | | Subject: Re: [aerogear-dev]
                                [Aerogear Pipeline] Support for nested<br>
                                | &gt; | | endpoints<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | On Apr 2, 2013, at 4:03 PM,
                                Matthias Wessendorf &lt; <a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | Two thoughts....<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | 1) the &#39;original&#39; leaguesPipe
                                has no clue about the subpipes, right ?<br>
                                | &gt; | | 2) should a pipe offer a
                                &#39;getter&#39; for all it&#39;s sub pipes ?<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | Just a thought is instead of
                                using Pipe, to continue using Pipeline<br>
                                | &gt; adding<br>
                                | &gt; | | an<br>
                                | &gt; | | extra parameter &quot; of&quot; for
                                specifying the parent : E.g.:<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | …..<br>
                                | &gt; | | id&lt;AGPipe&gt; leaguesPipe
                                = [pipeline pipe@&quot;leagues&quot;];<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | id&lt;AGPipe&gt;
                                allTeamsInSeattlePipe = [pipeline
                                subPipe@&quot;teams&quot; of<br>
                                | &gt; | | :leaguesPipe<br>
                                | &gt; | | for:@&quot;seattle&quot;]<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | id&lt;AGPipe&gt;
                                allPlayersInTrebuchetPipe = [pipeline
                                subPipe:@&quot;players&quot;<br>
                                | &gt; of:<br>
                                | &gt; | | allTeamsInSeattlePipe
                                for:@&quot;trebuchet&quot;];<br>
                                | &gt; | | …..<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | Wdyt?<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | -M<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | Thanks,<br>
                                | &gt; | | Christos<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="http://soccer.org/leagues/seattle/teams/trebuchet/players/foo" target="_blank">soccer.org/leagues/seattle/teams/trebuchet/players/foo</a>
                                - &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | [[pipeline pipe:@&quot;players&quot;
                                pathParams:@[@&quot;seattle&quot;, @&quot;trebuchet&quot;]]<br>
                                | &gt; read<br>
                                | &gt; | | :@&quot;foo&quot;] ..<br>
                                | &gt; | | -----<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | Wdyt?<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | Thanks<br>
                                | &gt; | | Christos<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | On Mar 18, 2013, at 1:12 PM,
                                Sebastien Blanc &lt; <a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | Well, that would not be
                                possible, for that you will have to
                                create a<br>
                                | &gt; | | &quot;child&quot;<br>
                                | &gt; | | pipe. But I agree, that is
                                maybe no optimal ...<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:44
                                PM, Summers Pittman &lt; <a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | On 03/15/2013 01:34 PM,
                                Sebastien Blanc wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | I like the idea but I will
                                more see that has a method/function for
                                the<br>
                                | &gt; | | pipelineManager (and will be
                                easier to implement in JS, I think) :<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | var myParentPipe =<br>
                                | &gt;
                                Aerogear.Pipeline({name:&quot;parentPipe&quot;}).pipes.parentPipe<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | var myChildPipe =
                                Aerogear.Pipeline.fromParent(myParentPipe,
                                {options}<br>
                                | &gt; )<br>
                                | &gt; | | What would it look like to
                                get a child record from a parent?<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 5:37
                                PM, Douglas Campos &lt; <a href="mailto:qmx@qmx.me" target="_blank">qmx@qmx.me</a> &gt;
                                wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | What about this?<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | Pipeline&lt;Post&gt;
                                postPipeline = …<br>
                                | &gt; | | Post post = // get from the
                                pipeline<br>
                                | &gt; | | Pipeline&lt;Comment&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                postPipeline.childPipelineForOrOtherWeirdName(Comment.class,
                                post)<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | On 15/03/2013, at 12:26,
                                Summers Pittman &lt; <a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt; On 03/14/2013 04:48 AM,
                                Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; On Thu, Mar 14, 2013
                                at 9:32 AM, Sebastien Blanc &lt;<br>
                                | &gt; <a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>
                                &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; Hi,<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; While I was playing
                                with scaffolding and tried to build a
                                simple<br>
                                | &gt; Blog<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; Application with
                                Aerogear I faced the current situation :<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; I have a Post object
                                which contains many Comment objects. Now
                                I<br>
                                | &gt; want to<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; call my Post pipe to
                                retrieve the related comments, I have<br>
                                | &gt; currently 2<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; options :<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; /posts/1 -&gt;
                                assuming comments will be implicitly
                                retrieved (eager<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; loading)<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; /comments/?postid=1<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; But regarding our
                                model the correct form should be :<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; /posts/1/comments<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; +1<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; that is the ideal
                                way to model URIs for &quot;nested&quot;
                                resources.<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; See [1], extracted
                                from [2]<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; But, AFAIK, with the
                                current API, it is not possible to
                                define this<br>
                                | &gt; last<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; pattern (at least
                                for JS and iOs, confirmed by Matzew).
                                When doing a<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; read<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; we can pass an id
                                option but as mentioned in the doc, this
                                id will<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; always<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; be append to the
                                endpoint.<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; Well, it is possible
                                - but in a very (IMO) ugly way:<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; <a href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/6ab432e437b9a017a21d" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/matzew/6ab432e437b9a017a21d</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; IMO, we should be
                                able to support this pattern but for now
                                I&#39;m not<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; really<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; sure how to specify
                                this in our API, so if you have any
                                ideas<br>
                                | &gt; feedback<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; this thread has been
                                made for you !<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; Suggestion: Enhance
                                the read function - example:<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; <a href="https://gist.github.com/matzew/04f069dfbed2cc77a8b4" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/matzew/04f069dfbed2cc77a8b4</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt; I&#39;m thinking of the
                                inverse myself. Add a &quot;ParentPath&quot;
                                property<br>
                                | &gt; which can<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt; be used to extract
                                information from parent objects.<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt; <a href="https://gist.github.com/secondsun/17ce96082eda37dbd10e" target="_blank">https://gist.github.com/secondsun/17ce96082eda37dbd10e</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; -Matthias<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; [1]<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; <a href="http://www.infoq.com/resource/articles/rest-introduction/en/resources/figure2.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.infoq.com/resource/articles/rest-introduction/en/resources/figure2.jpg</a><br>









                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; [2] <a href="http://www.infoq.com/articles/rest-introduction" target="_blank">http://www.infoq.com/articles/rest-introduction</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; Seb<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; aerogear-dev mailing
                                list<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; --<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; Matthias Wessendorf<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; aerogear-dev mailing
                                list<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;&gt; <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt;
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt; aerogear-dev mailing
                                list<br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt; <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | &gt; <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | -- qmx<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | aerogear-dev mailing list <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | --<br>
                                | &gt; | | Matthias Wessendorf<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | --<br>
                                | &gt; | | Matthias Wessendorf<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | | blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |<br>
                                | &gt; | |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | --<br>
                                | &gt; | Matthias Wessendorf<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                | &gt; | sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | --<br>
                                | &gt; | Matthias Wessendorf<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                | &gt; | sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | --<br>
                                | &gt; | Matthias Wessendorf<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                | &gt; | sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | --<br>
                                | &gt; | Matthias Wessendorf<br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; | blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                | &gt; | sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; | twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | &gt; |<br>
                                | &gt; |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt;<br>
                                | &gt;
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | &gt; aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | &gt; <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | &gt; <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                | &gt;<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                | --<br>
                                | Matthias Wessendorf<br>
                                |<br>
                                | blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                | sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                |<br>
                                |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                |<br>
                                | --<br>
                                | Matthias Wessendorf<br>
                                |<br>
                                | blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                | sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                | twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                |<br>
                                |
                                _______________________________________________<br>
                                | aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                | <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                | <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
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                                <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a></div>
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                        <div><br>
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                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                          -- <br>
                          Matthias Wessendorf <br>
                          <br>
                          blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                          sessions: <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                          twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a>
                        </div>
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                    </div>
                  </div>
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                  <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                  <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                </blockquote>
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            <a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
            <a href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a></blockquote>
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