<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Apostolos Emmanouilidis <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:aemmanou@redhat.com" target="_blank">aemmanou@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">In my opinion, adding a UI to send notification message will make the<br>

Admin UI quite complex. If the users are able to send notification<br>
messages from the UI they should also be able to receive the feedback<br>
information from the Push Notification servers.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>I agree, since I am also not a fan of sending messages from the UI. However folks keep asking, </div><div style>so I asked for that JIRA. this will, for sure, not be included in the first release;</div>
<div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
For example Apple mentions that &quot;APNs has a feedback service that<br>
maintains a per-application list of devices for which there were<br>
failed-delivery attempts (that is, APNs was unable to deliver a push<br>
notification to an application on a device). Periodically, the provider<br>
should connect with the feedback service to see what devices have<br>
persistent failures so that it can refrain from sending push<br>
notifications to them.&quot;<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>Not needed.</div><div style><br></div><div style>We have a ticket that we need a &quot;scheduled&quot; job to receive invalid from the network(s), in order to perform the &quot;tidy-up&quot;:</div>
<div style><a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-45">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-45</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>Even _if_ we would do the SEND from the UI, the job (AGPUSH-45) would still be the only one, responsible for that &quot;tidy-up&quot;.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>No need to stick this &quot;request feedback&quot; into the UI</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">

<br>
This means that extra functionality will be required, like the<br>
synchronization of the tokens. The &quot;inactive&quot; tokens should be removed<br>
or marked as &quot;token to be deleted&quot; and let the admin user decide whether<br>
they will be deleted or not.<br>
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<br>
On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 10:18 +0200, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
&gt; perfect, thanks!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Corinne Krych<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:corinnekrych@gmail.com">corinnekrych@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;         <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         for this (optional) 1.2.0 feature<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;         On 24 May 2013 08:01, Matthias Wessendorf &lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;<br>
&gt;         wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 12:12 AM, Corinne Krych<br>
&gt;                 &lt;<a href="mailto:corinnekrych@gmail.com">corinnekrych@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;                         Will the adminui provides UI to send<br>
&gt;                         notification message?<br>
&gt;                         It could be useful for testing purpose.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 Not sure, if we do it for August, but can u file a<br>
&gt;                 JIRA ?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                         Or another use case could be to send automatic<br>
&gt;                         - rule triggerred - messages.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 Nope. If the business logic wants to &quot;schedule&quot; jobs,<br>
&gt;                 to send messages, it can do it.<br>
&gt;                 But not inside of the admin UI.  See also:<br>
&gt;                 <a href="http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/" target="_blank">http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                         Corinne<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                         On Thursday, May 23, 2013, Hylke Bons wrote:<br>
&gt;                                 Yes, that&#39;s great!<br>
&gt;                                 Thanks,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                                 Hylke<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                                 On 23/05/2013 15:08, Matthias<br>
&gt;                                 Wessendorf wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt; Hylke,<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt; here is a &quot;spec&quot;, which has<br>
&gt;                                 &gt; use-cases, scenarios of the Server<br>
&gt;                                 &gt; Usage:<br>
&gt;                                 &gt; <a href="http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/" target="_blank">http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/</a><br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt; Let me know if that is good enough<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt; On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 3:02 PM,<br>
&gt;                                 &gt; Hylke Bons &lt;<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         Hi,<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         I don&#39;t feel confident<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         enough to comment on these<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         right now as I&#39;m currently<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         trying to learn more about<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         how AeroGear and push<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         notifications work, but<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         hopefully I wil be able to<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         soon. :)<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         What are the<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         requirements/functionalities<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         that you&#39;ve based this work<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         on? A few usecases might be<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         helpful too, so we can have<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         a better view on what you&#39;re<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         trying to design here.<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         Thanks,<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         Hylke<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         On 23/05/2013 13:54, Lucas<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         Holmquist wrote:<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; they look pretty good.<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; i&#39;m sure once we start<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; implementing it, there<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; will be tweaks.<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; not sure if this is<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; important at this point,<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;  but will this Admin UI<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; also receive<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; notifications, like when<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; someone starts the<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; installed app for the<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; first time and registers<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; their device token?<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; On May 23, 2013, at 8:43<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; AM, Matthias Wessendorf<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; Hello,<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; a few weeks ago, I<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; started to create a<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; (clickable) MockUp for<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; our Admin UI.<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AEROGEAR-1170</a><br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; It is (currently) based<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; on Bootstrap, because of<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; my &#39;awesome&#39; CSS/Design<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; skillz.<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; However, the cover the<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; functionality.<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; Any thoughts about<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; these? I am also<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; interested in moving<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; them forward, to that we<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; can give the PushEE<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; server an UI :)<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; Matthias<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; --<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; Matthias Wessendorf<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; blog:<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; sessions:<br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
&gt;                                 &gt;         &gt; &gt; twitter:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 --<br>
&gt;                 Matthias Wessendorf<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;                 blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
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&gt;<br>
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&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Matthias Wessendorf<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; blog: <a href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
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