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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/05/2013 18:23, Matthias
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<div dir="ltr">Almost :)
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<div style="">Hybrid would not use SimplePush :) It would use
GCM (Cordova on Android) or APNs (Cordova on iOS).</div>
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<div style="">2)</div>
<div style="">"Adds iOS, Android or SimplePush variant", ok ?</div>
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<div style="">4) Let's use the SimplePush (not Simple Push) </div>
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Yes, my bad on the typo.<br>
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Should we mention the name of the Push Network name there though? <br>
"iOS" and "Android" are platform names, but SimplePush is a Push
Network name.<br>
This is why I went with "(Hybrid) Web" to keep things consistent.<br>
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Hylke<br>
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<div style="">Mozilla writes it that way as well:</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Hylke
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<div>Here's the updated graphic:
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target="_blank">https://github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/blob/master/aerogear_unified_push_server.png</a><span
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Hylke</font></span>
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On 29/05/2013 16:57, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
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<div>On 29/05/2013 16:42, Matthias
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<div>wow - I like the graphic. A
few more "corrections"</div>
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<div>1) Developers can also add
"SimplePush variant"<br>
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<div>2) How about "Mobile
application (aka
MobileVariantInstance),
running on the device,
register themselves using a
token" ?<br>
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Sure, I'll fix that.
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<div>cool</div>
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<div>3) I think JBoss AS backend
server makes sense here -
however, it can be bloody PHP
app as well :)</div>
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True, I think this is a minor detail and
it's better to mention that as an
annotation to the image? Something like
"This graphic shows the interactions
between Push Applications and the Unified
Push Server using a JBoss backend as an
example.".</div>
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<div>yep</div>
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<div>4) Possible to add a
"cloud" to represent the
different push networks (for
iOS(APNs), for Android (GCM)
and SimplePush) ? </div>
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I don't draw clouds. ;)<br>
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<div>LOL</div>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Are
you refering to the word "PushNetworks"? I
think it does make sense to have an extra
step in the graphic there, but don't think
it should be a cloud. :)<br>
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<div>Yeah, I was talking about the different
PushNetworks, involved. Not sure if it needs
to be a "cloud". But they are considered
cloud services :) Feel free to draw
something else :)</div>
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<div>Thanks for the efforts!</div>
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Thanks,<br>
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Hylke
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<div>Makes sense ?</div>
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(it may make sense to
have a dedicated design
repo in the Github
organisation?)<br>
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Let me know what you
think and I'll create a
pull request if it gets
the go ahead.<br>
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<div>yeah, let's have a PR
(perhaps with an updated
version of the image) ? </div>
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Thanks,<br>
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Hylke Bons wrote:<br>
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<div>Thanks! Makes
sense. :)<br>
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Hylke<br>
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On 29/05/2013 06:49,
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<div dir="ltr">Hello
Hylke,<br>
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1) Admin user: This
should be
'Developer',
mentioned in the
spec document you
are referring to
(looks like a typo)
<div>2) UnifiedPush
Server: Yes, that
gray thing is
basically the UP
Server</div>
<div>3) yes, backend
does not need to
run on the same
machine.</div>
<div>--> The
UP-server could be
deployed in the
cloud and backends
(hosted somewhere
else), can access
it. That's why the
UP-server has HTTP
interfaces. So
even a PHP
application could
send messages to
it.</div>
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<div>-Matthias</div>
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Tue, May 28, 2013
at 10:27 PM, Hylke
Bons <span
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graphic found on
<a
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href="http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/"
target="_blank">http://staging.aerogear.org/docs/specs/aerogear-server-push/</a>.<br>
I've annoted my
questions in an
image as they're
worth a thousand
words. :)<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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