<div dir="ltr">Oh, one more thing :)<div><br></div><div style>SimplePush (JavaScript) API was developed for the FirefoxOS, and the (Firefox) desktop browser.</div><div style>The SimplePush Server/Protocol is used as the &quot;Push Network&quot; for devices/browsers that support the SimplePush API.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Example:</div><div style>Once Mozilla launches FirefoxOS (w/SimplePush), some &quot;SimplePush server implementation&quot;, deployed somewhere in the cloud (transparent to the FFOS device), will be used as the &quot;Push Network&quot; for the FFOS device.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>I guess, that explains why I do prefer &quot;SimplePush&quot; for variant and PushNetwork.</div><div style><br></div><div style>But I am not a native speaker, so I see a room for confusion here :-)</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>PS: The SimplePush Server would be the same as the APNs server (but there is no public spec for that, so we could not write our own APNs - not sure that now makes sense </div><div style><br>
</div><div style>-Matthias</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">SimplePush was invented for FireFoxOS.<div><br></div><div>But... we extend to all browsers, w/ out polyfill...</div><div>
<br></div><div>Web could be used, but I prefer SimplePush.</div><div>However, not that picky, nor interested to fight for it, over countless mails :-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, feel free to use Web :-) I guess I don&#39;t have too strong ferlings against &quot;web&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>-Matthias<div><div class="h5"><span></span><br><br>On Thursday, May 30, 2013, Hylke Bons  wrote:<br>

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    <div>Is it a &quot;platform&quot;? I don&#39;t see that
      anywhere on the Mozilla SimplePush wiki page...<br>
      <br>
      Anyway, using that term there feels very out of place. Developers
      don&#39;t create applications for &quot;SimplePush&quot;, they create apps for
      iOS, Android or the web. It makes much more sense from the end
      user point of view (this was slightly confusing to me on the home
      page as well, where the platforms are listed). It also prevents
      potential confusion where we have to deal with both Push Networks
      and Mobile Variants in the admin UI. I strongly recommend keeping
      these strictly separated (unless I&#39;m seeing something obviously
      wrong, please let me know).<br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      <br>
      Hylke<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 30/05/2013 10:32, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
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    </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">SimplePush: platform &amp; network :-)
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        <br>
        On Thursday, May 30, 2013, Hylke Bons wrote:<br>
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            <div>On 29/05/2013 18:23, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Almost :)
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                <div>Hybrid would not use SimplePush :) It would use GCM
                  (Cordova on Android) or APNs (Cordova on iOS).</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>2)</div>
                <div>&quot;Adds iOS, Android or SimplePush variant&quot;, ok ?</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>4) Let&#39;s use the SimplePush (not Simple Push) </div>
                <div><br>
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            <br>
            Yes, my bad on the typo.<br>
            <br>
            Should we mention the name of the Push Network name there
            though? <br>
            &quot;iOS&quot; and &quot;Android&quot; are platform names, but SimplePush is a
            Push Network name.<br>
            This is why I went with &quot;(Hybrid) Web&quot; to keep things
            consistent.<br>
            <br>
            Hylke<br>
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                <div>Mozilla writes it that way as well:</div>
                <div><a href="https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush" target="_blank">https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/SimplePush</a><br>
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                <div>On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Hylke Bons <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a>hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                  wrote:<br>
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                      <div>Here&#39;s the updated graphic: <a href="https://github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/blob/master/aerogear_unified_push_server.png" target="_blank">https://github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/blob/master/aerogear_unified_push_server.png</a><span><font color="#888888"><br>


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                            Hylke</font></span>
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                            <br>
                            <br>
                            On 29/05/2013 16:57, Matthias Wessendorf
                            wrote:<br>
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                                <div>On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:52 PM,
                                  Hylke Bons <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a>hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                        <div>On 29/05/2013 16:42,
                                          Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
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                                                <div>wow - I like the
                                                  graphic. A few more
                                                  &quot;corrections&quot;</div>
                                                <div><br>
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                                                <div>1) Developers can
                                                  also add &quot;SimplePush
                                                  variant&quot;<br>
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                                                <div>2) How about
                                                  &quot;Mobile application
                                                  (aka
                                                  MobileVariantInstance),
                                                  running on the device,
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