<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Deepali Khushraj <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dkhushra@redhat.com" target="_blank">dkhushra@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Jun 6, 2013, at 1:51 AM, Matthias Wessendorf &lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:38 AM, Deepali Khushraj <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:dkhushra@redhat.com" target="_blank">dkhushra@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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I like the mock-ups. A few comments:</div><div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Helvetica;word-wrap:break-word;word-spacing:0px">

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* It seems from the designs that the user can add only a single OS-specific variant per app. For example, I can create &quot;Mobile HR&quot; app with a single &quot;HR iOS&quot; variant,  but not two variants like &quot;HR iPad&quot; and &quot;HR iPhone free&quot;. I believe Matthias&#39; lexicon states such multiple variants are possible per app. . </div>

</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>yes. HR-iPad, HR-iWatch, HR-Android-watch, HR-Android-Tablet etc</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Hylke: I didn&#39;t hear back to you on this, so asking again.</div>
<div><br></div><div>How would the user provide names for these mobile app variants using current designs? I don&#39;t see a field to capture this.  </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style>the initial mocks (AGPUSH-27) do have name/desc for the different variants. Screenshots:</div>
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<div><div><br></div>Also I think a separate area maybe required to show the user API credentials (app keys/secrets etc.)-- required  to start using the PushEE REST API. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div style>yeah, an area for that is required. (I think that&#39;s what the mockup&#39;s try to hint with &quot;Access Keys&quot;)</div>
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I think the way you&#39;ve done is fine. However, if we choose this path then, I think, we need to update the specification and ensure the REST API won&#39;t allow multiple OS-specific variants per app, otherwise, they can&#39;t be shown in the UI.  </div>

</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>see above</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">

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* Apple&#39;s Push network has prod and dev environment options, a flag would be useful.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>See <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-88" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-88</a><br>

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<div style="margin:0px;font-size:12px">* The terms &quot;Instance&quot; and &quot;Variant&quot; will be unfamiliar terminologies to a new user. A help icon on the screen or just some text explaining the meanings of these terms to new comers would be helpful</div>

<div><br></div><div>* <span style="font-size:12px">Terminology suggestion:</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:12px"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">        </span>Instance -&gt; &quot;Active user instances&quot; or just &quot;User instances&quot;</div>

</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>&quot;active&quot; implies running ? User instance is better...... basically it&#39;s the installation of the actual app</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br>
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* I found the name <span style="font-size:12px">&quot;Variants and Push Networks&quot; confusing. I would suggest we use one :) </span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not sure I follow (variant != Push Network)</div>

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* I<span style="font-size:12px"> noticed you added links to download client SDKs, which is great. </span><span style="font-size:12px">I think a link to the Sender REST API spec would be useful too.</span></div><div><br></div>

<div>* I found our iOS  tutorial to be really helpful. It got the user up and running really quickly. This is something I struggled with Urban Airship and other services. Linking ours to the console could be a real value add to first-time users </div>

</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>&quot;Help&quot; section? Has links to SDK, tutorial etc ??</div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><br></div><div>* <span style="font-size:12px">We need to check the security aspect of showing end-user emails in the instances tab to the developers of the app. </span></div></div>

</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well, it can be some other aspect. But .... the developer of company X will be able to query all users for company X...</div><div>It&#39;s not that Manager of company Y sees them.<br>

</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>If you feel this is really important, please open a JIRA</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><span style="font-size:12px"><br></span></div><div>* Also, if an app gets really popular then this list will likely be really long, like thousands of users. Not sure if our console could handle that. I think this feature of being able to see instances is great in &quot;development mode&quot; or during apps&#39; &quot;beta testing&quot; though.</div>

</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Pagination will be there, At least I was expecting that, even if the mockups do not show that.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>* <span style="font-size:12px">Is the check-mark in first screen used to make an app active Vs inactive?</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>
He will do that in a later round, Hylke said</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div><br></div><div>* I like that you show the variants summary in first screen, wondering if we could use icons there for iOS, Android &amp; web.</div><div><br></div><div>* I was wondering if we could consider some UX ideas for first-time user experience. I imagine a lot of users using this service would never have used Push before, so they may need some hand holding and the UI is a great way to start that.</div>

<div><br></div><div>I am compiling a list of future use cases, will share that on the list next.</div><div><br></div><div>What you have is already very nice.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks!</div><span><font color="#888888"><div>

Deepali. </div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12px"><br></span></div><div><br></div><div> </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><br>
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<br><div><div>On Jun 4, 2013, at 11:26 AM, Hylke Bons &lt;<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Hi,<br><br>It seems that most of us are happy with the wireframes for the Unified <br>

Push Server admin UI. I&#39;ve used the feedback to make a few small <br>changes: <br><a href="https://github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/blob/master/aerogear_unified_push_server_admin_ui.png" target="_blank">https://github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/blob/master/aerogear_unified_push_server_admin_ui.png</a><br>

<br>The next step is to look at the the missing features like the user <br>management and authentication. It would be good to have a discussion <br>about this, and I have some questions too.<br><br>If I understand things correctly, the Push Server can run &quot;standalone&quot; <br>

or as a component in JBoss AS (or something else). So we&#39;ll need a UI <br>for user management when we run standalone, but one that can be disabled <br>and be plugged in by different existing auth systems that are running on <br>

the server or somewhere else.<br><br>Some questions that come to mind:<br><br>How is the server bootstrapped? And how is the initial user account <br>configured? The most essential basic role would be to access the UI and <br>

to configure push notifications (and one to add other (admin) users). <br>Are there any other roles that we should be considering? Things that <br>should be disabled for some users?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Hylke<br>_______________________________________________<br>

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