<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">we need someone to write a hangout plugin that translates what we say to IRC <br><div><div>On Jun 17, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Kris Borchers <<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com">kris@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I think in general the idea of IRC meetings is ok. My biggest concern is that our meetings will be much longer. In order to have good discussions while typing everything will just take more time. I feel like we resolve a lot of misunderstandings via hangouts that seem to go unresolved when trying to express our thoughts in IRC or e-mail.<div><br></div><div><div><div>On Jun 17, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Generally, I do like IRC based meetings.<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Bruno Oliveira <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bruno@abstractj.org" target="_blank">bruno@abstractj.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">My suggestion is fire the invitations 10 minutes before and if we face<br>
with any kind of issues switch to IRC meetings.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div style="">+1 that is a good option, </div><div style="">but I guess the point that qmx is making is "lack of information". I think that things are more explicit when the meeting is on IRC.</div>
<div style=""><br></div><div style="">+ there is an archived version of it. Right now we post the agenda, which is good, but this does not always reflect the discussions around some of the items on the agenda.</div><div style="">
<br></div><div style="">On the other hand, I can see what qmx also stated: A video conference may feel more productive.</div><div style=""><br></div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">Why not trying two meetings, based on IRC. Afterwards we can reflect things.</div>
<div style=""><br></div><div style=""><br></div><div style=""><br></div><div style="">-M</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Douglas Campos wrote:<br>
> Howdy!<br>
><br>
> Today after the hangout failure I realized how bad is for the project to<br>
> have hangouts for the project meetings - and how they make us more<br>
> closed than we should be.<br>
> (just as a background, we did have IRC meetings in the past, but since<br>
> we were 4 people only, having the hangouts "felt" more productive - and<br>
> the benefits made the problems less obvious to us).<br>
><br>
> So I propose that we move back to IRC meetings for now, and keep the<br>
> hangouts only for internal topics and non-project stuff.<br>
><br>
> Thoughts?<br>
><br>
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--<br>
</div>abstractj<br>
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