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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/18/2013 08:15 AM, Matthias
      Wessendorf wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAAg5f2RLxgxr3rVKCM93W_bNAG0KN7+E3P59QJVAq_6OSb6FWA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Summers, Passos,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>wondering if we should/could honor "android" specific keys
          as well (similar to the iOS keys that we "honor")</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
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          See:</div>
        <div style=""><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear.org/blob/master/docs/specs/aerogear-push-messages/index.markdown#ios-special-keys">https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear.org/blob/master/docs/specs/aerogear-push-messages/index.markdown#ios-special-keys</a><br>
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    </blockquote>
    Well the Google provided libraries are rather open ended.&nbsp; I'm not
    saying we shouldn't have android specific keys, I'm just wondering
    what keys we want to support.<br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAAg5f2RLxgxr3rVKCM93W_bNAG0KN7+E3P59QJVAq_6OSb6FWA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
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        <div>-Matthias<br>
          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
            <br>
            <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM,
              Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matzew@apache.org"
                  target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span>
              wrote:<br>
              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                <div dir="ltr">reminder, that ID is just the primary key
                  :-)
                  <div>
                    <br>
                  </div>
                  <div>meaningful are<span
                      style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">&nbsp;"</span><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">pushApplicationID</span><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">" and "variantID"</span></div>
                </div>
                <div class="">
                  <div class="h5">
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at
                        3:17 PM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:matzew@apache.org"
                            target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                          style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                          <div dir="ltr">Luke
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>once this landed, it will be
                              "pushApplicationID" and "variantID" - the
                              ID is than meaningless (at least for
                              PushEE server).<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                                </font></span></div>
                            <span><font color="#888888">
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>-M</div>
                              </font></span></div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 31,
                                  2013 at 6:45 PM, Lucas Holmquist <span
                                    dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com"
                                      target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                    style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                    <div style="word-wrap:break-word">plus
                                      plus&nbsp;
                                      <div>
                                        <div><br>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>On May 31, 2013, at
                                              12:39 PM, Matthias
                                              Wessendorf &lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:matzew@apache.org"
                                                target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;
                                              wrote:</div>
                                            <br>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div dir="ltr"><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-86" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-86</a><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                <br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                  On Fri, May 31, 2013
                                                  at 6:25 PM, Luke
                                                  Holmquist <span
                                                    dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                                  wrote:<br>
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    class="gmail_quote"
                                                    style="margin:0px
                                                    0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                    <div dir="auto">
                                                      <div><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        Sent from my
                                                        iPhone</div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                          On May 31,
                                                          2013, at 12:24
                                                          PM, Matthias
                                                          Wessendorf
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">somehow
                                                          the device
                                                          needs to say:
                                                          "I belong to
                                                          android
                                                          variant"
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>besides
                                                          the @Id /PK,
                                                          we can have a
                                                          second field /
                                                          column that
                                                          represents:</div>
                                                          <div>*&nbsp;PushAppID</div>
                                                          <div>*
                                                          VariantID</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </blockquote>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div>Yup. Having
                                                        these would
                                                        solve that</div>
                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Was that
                                                          your
                                                          question?&nbsp;<span></span><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          On Friday, May
                                                          31, 2013,
                                                          Lucas
                                                          Holmquist
                                                          wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          class="gmail_quote"
                                                          style="margin:0px
                                                          0px 0px
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                                                          style="word-wrap:break-word">something
                                                          that i was
                                                          thinking about
                                                          after doing
                                                          some examples
                                                          is that i'm
                                                          not sure how i
                                                          feel about
                                                          using the PK's
                                                          of each table
                                                          as the
                                                          identifier to
                                                          register/broadcast
                                                          clients.
                                                          <div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>We are
                                                          sort of giving
                                                          meaning to
                                                          data that
                                                          really
                                                          shouldn't have
                                                          meaning. &nbsp;it
                                                          should really
                                                          only be used
                                                          to identify
                                                          the row. &nbsp;It
                                                          might be
                                                          better to have
                                                          another key on
                                                          each
                                                          table/object
                                                          that is the
                                                          identifier.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>So in one
                                                          of the
                                                          examples i
                                                          did, &nbsp;the app
                                                          on the device
                                                          will register
                                                          the device
                                                          with the push
                                                          server, &nbsp;but i
                                                          needed to also
                                                          include the id
                                                          of the variant
                                                          instance</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>i guess
                                                          i'm thinking
                                                          if someone
                                                          migrates their
                                                          database,
                                                          &nbsp;these keys
                                                          could get
                                                          messed up.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>wdyt?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On May
                                                          28, 2013, at
                                                          2:53 AM,
                                                          Matthias
                                                          Wessendorf
                                                          &lt;<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;
                                                          wrote:</div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>On Tue,
                                                          May 28, 2013
                                                          at 8:51 AM,
                                                          Corinne Krych
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true">corinnekrych@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin:0px
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">in
                                                          selective push
                                                          is:<br>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">==&gt;
                                                          variant: iOS&nbsp;</span><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"> + alias: mwessendorf</span><font
                                                          face="arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </font></div>
                                                          a valid
                                                          criteria too?<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>yes. let
                                                          me update the
                                                          related doc(s)</div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <blockquote
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>On 28 May
                                                          2013 08:51,
                                                          Corinne Krych
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true">corinnekrych@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin:0px
                                                          0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          On 28 May 2013
                                                          08:48,
                                                          Matthias
                                                          Wessendorf <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin:0px
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">TYPO:
                                                          <div><font
                                                          face="arial,
                                                          sans-serif">==&gt;
                                                          variant: iOS
                                                          (since a
                                                          PushAPP
                                                          _might_ have
                                                          only one
                                                          iOS&nbsp;variant) +
                                                          deviceType:iPadMini
                                                          &nbsp;+ alias:
                                                          mwessendorf</font><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><font
                                                          face="arial,
                                                          sans-serif">or</font></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">==&gt;
                                                          variant: iOS
                                                          (since a
                                                          PushAPP
                                                          _might_ have
                                                          only one
                                                          iOS&nbsp;variant</span><span
style="font-family:arial,sans-serif">) + deviceType:iPhone &nbsp;+ alias:
                                                          mwessendorf</span><font
                                                          face="arial,
                                                          sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </font></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-family:arial,sans-serif"><br>
                                                          </span></div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          On Tue, May
                                                          28, 2013 at
                                                          8:43 AM,
                                                          Matthias
                                                          Wessendorf <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin:0px
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On Tue,
                                                          May 28, 2013
                                                          at 12:00 AM,
                                                          Corinne Krych
                                                          <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true">corinnekrych@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin:0px
                                                          0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">When
                                                          doing
                                                          selective push
                                                          query, is
                                                          there any
                                                          overlap
                                                          between mobile
                                                          variant (which
                                                          I understand
                                                          like mobile
                                                          type which
                                                          contains
                                                          certificates)
                                                          and device
                                                          type?</div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>MobileVariant
                                                          (or call it
                                                          type) is
                                                          something like
                                                          "Android", or
                                                          "iOS".</div>
                                                          <div>deviceTypes
                                                          would be iPad,
                                                          iPod, iPhone,
                                                          iWatch :) &nbsp;-
                                                          or "Android
                                                          Table",
                                                          "Andrpid
                                                          phone",
                                                          android what
                                                          not</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Sure....
                                                          ideally there
                                                          are several
                                                          variants:</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>- iOS
                                                          iPhone
                                                          5&nbsp;optimised&nbsp;app
                                                          in the app
                                                          store</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>- iOS
                                                          iPhone 4s
                                                          optimised&nbsp;app
                                                          in the app
                                                          store</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>- iOS
                                                          iPhone 3
                                                          optimised&nbsp;app
                                                          in the app
                                                          store</div>
                                                          <div>- iOS
                                                          iPad mini
                                                          optimised&nbsp;app
                                                          in the app
                                                          store</div>
                                                          <div>etc :)</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>But, if
                                                          there is only
                                                          one variant,
                                                          it's totally
                                                          valid to
                                                          install an iOS
                                                          application
                                                          (from the
                                                          appstore), on
                                                          an iPad and an
                                                          iPhone;</div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin:0px
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div>Both
                                                          aimed at
                                                          defining
                                                          categories.&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          Are those
                                                          categories
                                                          defined and
                                                          fixed in the
                                                          spec or can
                                                          they be
                                                          extended?</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I don't
                                                          understand
                                                          categories,
                                                          here</div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          style="margin:0px
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Can
                                                          we do a
                                                          selective push
                                                          based on
                                                          mobileType=mobile
                                                          variant and
                                                          alias=john@gmail?</div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          Matthias
                                                          Wessendorf <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          blog: <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                                          sessions: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf"
                                                          target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
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