<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jun 17, 2013, at 8:19 AM, Hylke Bons wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello,<br>
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I've updated the wireframes with the points raised, you can find
it here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://raw.github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/master/aerogear_unified_push_server_admin_ui.png">https://raw.github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/master/aerogear_unified_push_server_admin_ui.png</a><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 this is looking really good! </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div class="moz-cite-prefix">
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I'll address your feedback inline.<br>
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On 06/06/2013 01:38, Deepali Khushraj wrote:<br>
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<div apple-content-edited="true">* It seems from the designs that
the user can add only a single OS-specific variant per app. For
example, I can create "Mobile HR" app with a single "HR iOS"
variant, but not two variants like "HR iPad" and "HR iPhone
free". I believe Matthias' lexicon states such multiple variants
are possible per app. . <br>
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after-white-space; ">I think the way you've done is fine.
However, if we choose this path then, I think, we need to
update the specification and ensure the REST API won't allow
multiple OS-specific variants per app, otherwise, they can't
be shown in the UI. </div>
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I forgot a to add this usecase. This can now be done in the
"Variants" tab.<br>
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after-white-space; ">* Apple's Push network has prod and dev
environment options, a flag would be useful.</div>
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Two certificate files can now be provided: one for production and
one for development. Any of the two can be used by mobile apps
whether they're deployed or for debugging purposes.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Although useful, lets not make this a priority for the first .8 release in August. </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 12px; ">* The terms
"Instance" and "Variant" will be unfamiliar terminologies to
a new user. A help icon on the screen or just some text
explaining the meanings of these terms to new comers would
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<div>* <span style="font-size: 12px; ">Terminology suggestion:</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 12px; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Instance
-> "Active user instances" or just "User instances"</div>
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I've changed this to "Mobile Instances" for now, but we can discuss
this.<br>
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confusing. I would suggest we use one :) </span></div>
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Push Networks it is.<br>
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after-white-space; ">* I<span style="font-size: 12px; "> noticed
you added links to download client SDKs, which is great. </span><span style="font-size: 12px; ">I think a link to the Sender REST
API spec would be useful too.</span></div>
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I think this is something we need to fix on the <a href="http://aerogear.org">aerogear.org</a> website
itself. There should be easy access from the downloads to the API as
a "next step".<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Imo as part of the console there should be links to the various getting started resources - docs, examples, SDKs, etc.... However I also agree that the site will need some updating around this.</div><div><br></div><div>I was going to start another thread on this, but perhaps a <a href="http://aerogear.org/push">aerogear.org/push</a> landing page will be a good place to have as a landing page for "help". </div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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<div>* I found our iOS tutorial to be really helpful. It got
the user up and running really quickly. This is something I
struggled with Urban Airship and other services. Linking ours
to the console could be a real value add to first-time users </div>
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<div>* <span style="font-size: 12px; ">We need to check the
security aspect of showing end-user emails in the instances
tab to the developers of the app. </span></div>
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Like mentioned by Matthias, this can be anything, not just email
addressses. It depends on how the developer sets the system up.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>+1 and not a priority for the initial release</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
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<div>* Also, if an app gets really popular then this list will
likely be really long, like thousands of users. Not sure if
our console could handle that. I think this feature of being
able to see instances is great in "development mode" or during
apps' "beta testing" though.</div>
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It can be a long list and we probably will have to add pagination
and filtering. The main usecase here is removing instances to stop
them from receiving new push notifications.<br>
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<div>* <span style="font-size: 12px; ">Is the check-mark in
first screen used to make an app active Vs inactive?</span></div>
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It was to to select applications and perform actions on them. I
already thought this would be confusing, so I removed them now. An
app is active when it has at least one push network enabled.<br>
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<div>* I like that you show the variants summary in first
screen, wondering if we could use icons there for iOS, Android
& web.</div>
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Yep, potentially.<br>
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<div>* I was wondering if we could consider some UX ideas for
first-time user experience. I imagine a lot of users using
this service would never have used Push before, so they may
need some hand holding and the UI is a great way to start
that.</div>
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Yes, I've added some paragraphs to make things more friendlier, but
there's room for improvement. We can fix this as we go.<br>
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Thanks for the feedback. It's been really useful!<br>
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Hylke<br>
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