<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Kris Borchers wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Jun 24, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Jay Balunas <<a href="mailto:jbalunas@redhat.com">jbalunas@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi All,<div><br></div><div>For the RichFaces project we used IRC meetings and I thought it worked out really well! We used meetbot [1], so had nice minutes, and once you get used to the hashtags it becomes much more productive. Another nice benefit is that language becomes less of an issue, and there is little worry about talking over each other.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I disagree that language is less of an issue. A lot of times I have found that discussions over the ML and IRC have fallen short and only the in person discussions resolved issues that were completely misunderstood over multiple e-mails and IRC discussions.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I was referring to actual understanding of content :-) </div><div><br></div><div>I agree with you about emotion and missed meaning. The key is to be clear, avoid sarcasm, etc... ;-)</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>As Qmx said we used to have IRC meetings and switched to hangout, but I think it is best if we switch back.</div><div><br></div><div>As for time the meetings take, I actually think we can get through the agenda quicker in some cases. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>My point wasn't the agenda length but the amount of items that get discussed because they are sparked by other items on the agenda. Many of those discussion have been invaluable and I feel they will be lost moving to IRC meetings.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't think those get "lost" but can be tracking ever better in IRC/Meetbot.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>So for today lets go with it, and we can post the link to the logs to the mailing list as well.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>We'll see how it goes but I have my reservations.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>-Jay</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot">http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot</a></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Jun 22, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><br><br>On Saturday, June 22, 2013, Corinne Krych wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p>Let's try it!</p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yeah!! \o/<span></span></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 22, 2013 10:35 AM, "Matthias Wessendorf" <<a href="javascript:_e({},%20'cvml',%20'matzew@apache.org');" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution">
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any result here?<div><br></div><div>Should we try the open IRC meeting style?<span></span> <br><br>On Tuesday, June 18, 2013, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Douglas Campos <span dir="ltr"><<a>qmx@qmx.me</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 08:51:43PM +0200, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
> perhaps a better "meeting minutes" solution would make it more open ?<br>
</div>Honestly I don't think we have a better option than IRC meetings -<br>
Doing the meetings on video is kinda like the same as if we sat together<br>
inside a room and used whiteboards for all the discussion, then just<br>
posted pictures of the boards.<br>
<br>
I know it's more work doing it on a written form, but I think it'll pay<br>
off in the future.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Let's try...</div><div>also, when folks are "gone" (e.g. vacation what not), this is more transparent and easy to read-up on "meetings".</div>
<div>right now: almost zero chance of knowing what's going on</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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