<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I would like to reboot the discussion of css frameworks<div><br></div><div>the 2 that are in question are bootstrap and topcoat.</div><div><br></div><div>i would like to here why one is "better" than the other. or why the preference. </div><div><br></div><div>Ready, Go.</div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 8, 2013, at 10:01 AM, Hylke Bons <<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com">hbons@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Updated wireframes can be found here:
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<div>On Jul 3, 2013, at 8:18 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matzew@apache.org">matzew@apache.org</a>>
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Lucas Holmquist <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>></span>
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<div>So this is not really a design question.</div>
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<div>So the admin console will allow
developers/admins to "register" so they can log
into the UI, should there be a section in the UI
that allows for user management? or is this a
separate thing? Probably not a priority atm, but
just thinking out load</div>
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<div>yes, and I think we have had that already in this
thread, that some sort of user management is needed. </div>
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<div style="">Quote from first email in this thread: "<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">The
next step is to look at the the missing features
like the user</span></div>
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">management
and authentication."</span></div>
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<div>On Jul 2, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Hylke Bons <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>>
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<div>Hold you horses, I barely had a day to
work on them... :)<br>
I'll post them as soon as possible.<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">HI,
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<div>just wanted to see if there
was any update to those
wireframes yet</div>
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<div>I'd be interested as well :)</div>
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<div>Alright, so after
a chat with Matthias
on IRC about the
potential use cases
I'm updating the
wireframes with the
requirement. I'll
post an update here
soon.<br>
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Thanks,<br>
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Fri, Jun 28,
2013 at 1:35
PM, Lucas
Holmquist <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>></span>
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<div>perhaps a
workflow
explanation
will clear
things up a
bit</div>
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<div>i log in
to the admin
console and
the first
screen should
be where i
create a "Push
Application",
which isn't
really an
application,
but just a
grouping name
essentially. </div>
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<div>then
under the
"Push
Applications"
details, this
is where we
actually
create the
"apps"( or the
different
variants of
the grouping
). Each of
these would
need there own
certificate/googleApiKey.</div>
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<div>exactly</div>
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28, 2013, at
7:28 AM,
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2013 at 1:16
PM, Hylke Bons
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<div>I'm not
even sure
we're talking
about the same
thing. :)<br>
<br>
Just to make
sure, this is
_not_ about
the ID/Secret
shown in the
wireframes for
the app and
its variants?
(the variant
ones show up
in
"tooltips").</div>
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<div>Of
course, every
variant also
has it's own
variantID/secret </div>
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12:09,
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we would you
want to use
different
settings if
the result,<br>
getting a
message to the
client, is the
same?<br>
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<div>you lost
me. Not sure
what you are
asking :)</div>
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<div>Are you
concerned
about the
"payload"
(message) is
represented
differently ?</div>
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<div>If one
PushApp has
several
variants<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">:</span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
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<div>*
HR-iOS-Tablet
free</div>
<div>*
HR-iOS-Tablet
paid</div>
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<div>*
HR-iOS-Phone
free</div>
<div>*
HR-Android-Phone
paid<br>
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<div>*
HR-Android-Watch
free</div>
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<div>Each has
it's OWN
cert/key.
Still if you
send out
something
like:</div>
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<div>the
message would
be delivered
to all clients
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of the
underlying
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