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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Btw be sure to use fastkclick [1] or
adequate [2] if you are going to evaluate any of those.<br>
It has massive impact on perceived UI responsiveness. :-)<br>
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On 07/09/2013 03:09 PM, Lukas Fryc wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I was investigating CSS "frameworks"
(or rather widget libraries) recently<br>
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and Bootstrap isn't really good choice for fast,
mobile-optimized applications.<br>
<br>
<b>Bootstrap</b> serves its purpose when it comes to
mobile-ready, responsive pages, but it does poor job when
someone wants to build fast mobile application.<br>
Bootstrap's poor performance is also very perceivable in hybrid
development - I tried a sample app in Cordova and it's quite
slow /wrt rendering and transitions (btw, I have tried Kris'
devnexus AngularJS/AeroGear app [1] there as well ;-).<br>
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I have tried <b>Topcoat</b> personally and it is really fast,
though it's incomplete yet (0.5 was released a week ago, which
contains barely half of the "widgets" that jQuery mobile could
provide).<br>
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However I really like where <b>Topcoat</b> is directed.<br>
There is a sample application [2, 3] which integrates Topcoat
with Backbone and it's impressively fast in Chrome on Android.<br>
I have tried it in Cordova and it's also fast there. (however
Cordova suffers from integration with out-dated WebKit (the one
from built-in Android browser) thus there are some issues with
rendering).<br>
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(People are also reporting that current <b>jQuery Mobile</b> is
too slow for web/hybrid development if you expect the app to be
as fast as native.)<br>
<br>
Btw the best mobile widget library I have seen so far /wrt
performance and completeness is <b>Ratchet</b> [4] (though it
has Apple-ish look&feel). It works really smooth in Cordova
- there is an AngularJS sample app [5]).<br>
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~ Lukas<br>
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--<br>
Lukas Fryc<br>
Software Engineer<br>
JBoss by Red Hat<br>
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On 07/08/2013 09:20 PM, Lucas Holmquist wrote:<br>
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<div>Starting a new thread for this:</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">I would like to reboot the
discussion of css frameworks</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">the 2 that are in question
are bootstrap and topcoat.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">i would like to here why one
is "better" than the other. or why the</div>
<div style="text-align: left;">preference.</div>
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<div style="text-align: left;">Ready, Go.</div>
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