<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">ok i'll create some JIRA's<br><div><div>On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 3:15 PM, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:39 PM, Lucas Holmquist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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On Jul 16, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Kris Borchers <<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div>On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:30 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div><div>On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div><div>On Jul 16, 2013, at 7:10 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Kris Borchers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kris@redhat.com" target="_blank">kris@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><div><div>On Jul 16, 2013, at 3:05 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div>
<br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Lucas Holmquist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">here's a scenario.<br>
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A user creates an "Application" then adds a new "iOS Variant" to it.<br>
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they decide they need to rename this Variant since they didn't name it very well.<br>
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There is currently no way of renaming/ updating the description of this variant without re-sending the Certificate/pass phrase. this would be the same for Android and Simple Push, just substitute google key and channels<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>yes - but should be easy to change :-)</div><div><br></div><div>See here:</div><div><a href="https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-unified-push-server/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/connectivity/rest/registry/applications/AndroidVariantEndpoint.java#L134-L138" target="_blank">https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-unified-push-server/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/connectivity/rest/registry/applications/AndroidVariantEndpoint.java#L134-L138</a><br>
</div><div><br></div><div>in the "update", we just need to onbly update/replace those things that are NOT null. Of course, perhaps we need to rethink the "update validation" too:</div><div><a href="https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-unified-push-server/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/connectivity/rest/registry/applications/AndroidVariantEndpoint.java#L130-L132" target="_blank">https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-unified-push-server/blob/master/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/connectivity/rest/registry/applications/AndroidVariantEndpoint.java#L130-L132</a><br>
</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>Yes that could work even if I must admit I'm not a big fan of updating based on a null check ... Imagine someone wants to delete the description by setting it to null , that won't be possible ;)</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>well, yeah - that (the desc) is optional - I was more interested in the required fields:</div><div>e.g. for iOS Variant:</div><div>* cert/passphrase (or googlekey/networkURL on other variants)</div>
<div>PushApp:</div><div>* name</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>I'm not sure how I feel about this partial update. I'm not a big fan of saying "It's a required field but leave it null if you don't want it to change." Feels wrong.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>not sure I am following, but the required fields should never be null </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>Now I'm not following.</div></div></blockquote><div>
<br></div><div>:-)</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">
<div>Let's go through a scenario and see how each would work with your method. Imagine there are currently values in every field. What fields need values and what can be null when:</div>
<div><br></div><div>I update a single required field?</div><div>I update a single optional field?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well,when I update the FORM and hit ENTER (let's assume this is a PUT, just for now..), aren't the entire form values sent?</div>
<div><br></div><div>So, any field that changed will be udpated, I think</div><div><br></div><div>Now if you NULL out a required field, I'd imagine that is not allowed.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>
</div>So I guess I'm confused as to why there was any discussion of NULL fields being ignored then. If the form is filled in for the user, if they empty a field it should either fail (required field) or empty the value (optional field). </div>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>NULL should never just be ignored, right?</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think, the "confusion" comes in..... what happens if (iOS Variant), JUST the name is changed (note: the certificate FILE is required).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
<div>I guess that would be just fine... if (on the JUST iOSVariant.name is changed), we do not bother with the certificate.</div><div><br></div><div>We update the certificate ONLY if it is actually part of the "UPDATE request".</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I see. Yeah that's pretty standard. What I have done in my app building past when dealing with files (certificate) is to show the current file name in the UI and if the file field is left blank, ignore that in the update.<br>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>that seems to be a good way of doing it. we would still need to change the logic on the endpoint method to ignore the certificate if its not there, or use PATCH?</div>
</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'd say PUT (but I am not Roy Fielding ;-))</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div>I would vote PATCH to be correct but would not cry if it's PUT I guess.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yeah - good call. I guess PATCH does make sense [1]. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://www.mnot.net/blog/2012/09/05/patch">http://www.mnot.net/blog/2012/09/05/patch</a></div>
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<div><div class="im"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>the thing i'd be worried about when resending the cert bits,</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>do not do it :-) Only send IF a user really did select a file with the [input type:file] field, no ?</div>
</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div>+1<div><div class="h5"><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div> would be that some bit might change in the transfer and F up everything else</div>
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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-M</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>If we are to do partial updates like this though, I would say it should probably use http PATCH instead of PUT, right?<div><br><blockquote type="cite">
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<div class="gmail_quote"><div> (Well not sure it is a valid use case but you see my point) and as you said we must then rethink user validation.</div>
<div>Other option is to split the update into more smaller specific updates methods ... but not sure about this also.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br>
Also, once we have a variant created, we have a variant ID, we should be able to use that ID( plus type? ) to do updates instead of having to pass the applicaitonID and variantID( same would go for a delete i guess ).<br>
<br>
<br>
Not really sure the best way to handle this.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>the "variantID" is not a PK, but it's unique - so a new finder is what you need. </div><div><div><br></div><div>
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<br>
Should a user be able to update a certificate/key/channel once it has been created. </blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>yes, they should be able to replace an outdated (or revoked) certificate, API etc.</div><div>
<div><br></div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"> How would this affect any installations it might have?<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>Not at all. so if (speaking Androind) ... a new "project" is used - there is a new SenderID - that's more impact, since the actual mobile app needs to be updated, but again that's not really a concern for the push server</div>
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thoughts?<br>
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-Luke<br>
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