<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Hylke<div><br></div><div>Regarding the issue you had on you fork branch, on iPhone/Android browsers of the paragraph being shifted to the right. This issue is caused by this line:&nbsp;</div><div><a href="https://github.com/hbons/aerogear.org/blob/AEROGEAR-1285/css/main.css#L389">https://github.com/hbons/aerogear.org/blob/AEROGEAR-1285/css/main.css#L389</a></div><div><br></div><div>Replace</div><div><pre style="word-wrap: break-word; white-space: pre-wrap; "><font face="Helvetica">.feature {
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</span></font></pre><div><font face="Helvetica">and you should get the&nbsp;spec&nbsp;you wanted.</font></div><div>Because you're working border-box, padding is taking extra space out out the box and if there is not enough space in the parent container it expands.&nbsp;One thing I would advise is: when designing your site, &nbsp;test it on real devices on iterative steps as often as possible.&nbsp;</div></div><div><br></div><div>++</div><div>Corinne</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Aug 5, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Kris Borchers &lt;<a href="mailto:kborcher@redhat.com">kborcher@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>+0.5&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>I agree the footer was too big but I want to do a full review of all navigation when i get back before saying +1</div><div><br>On Aug 5, 2013, at 7:34, Corinne Krych &lt;<a href="mailto:corinnekrych@gmail.com">corinnekrych@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"><div>Hi All,</div><div><br></div>#agreed on icons not being meaningful, we could do hyperlinks with text.&nbsp;<div>But to keep footer small, let's not put to much information in the footer. Id you recall we had a huge footer.<div>I'd go for a footer that looks like this one:<div><a href="http://wildfly.org/">http://wildfly.org/</a><br><div><div><br></div><div>wdyt?</div><div><br></div><div>Corinne</div><div><br></div><div>On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Hylke Bons &lt;<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Great!<br>
      <br>
      We're nearly there now, I'll fix the remaining issues today.<br>
      <br>
      I the use of icons in the footer is problematic. Visitors don't
      necessarily know what these mean.<br>
      <br>
      For example, where would you go if you want to report an issue?
      Not everyone is familiar with Jira and its logo. (You could hover
      and get some kind of clue, but you can't do this on touch devices,
      and it would be annoying)<br>
      <br>
      So I think we should revert back to just using text links... The
      social networks can remain as icons.<br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      <br>
      Hylke<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 05/08/2013 10:14, Corinne Krych wrote:<br>
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      Hello All
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      <div>@Hylke, I've integrated your comments:</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>1. logo is on left on desktop, centred on phone. I think this
        was a good comprise to make it look good on desktop and phone.</div>
      <div>2. menu icon is fixed</div>
      <div>3. page padding for paragraph added</div>
      <div>4. I've downloaded the fonts locally and honestly it improved
        performance when browsing on devices&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>I'd like you to revisit the footer icons I've added
        (doc/jira/email/github/irc). It would be nice if they can look
        like the twitter/facebook/google+ ones you initially created.
        wdyt?</div>
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      </div>
      <div>@all, ready for your review guys, PR sent.&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
      </div>
      <div>++</div>
      <div>Corinne</div>
      <div><br>
        <div>
          <div>On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Corinne Krych &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:corinnekrych@gmail.com">corinnekrych@gmail.com</a>&gt;
            wrote:</div>
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              <div>Hi Hylke!</div>
              <div><br>
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              I've answered your comets below.
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Taking the latest code in my branch:</div>
              <div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/corinnekrych/aerogear.org/tree/AEROGEAR-1285">https://github.com/corinnekrych/aerogear.org/tree/AEROGEAR-1285</a></div>
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              <div>I've also proposed a solution to make the footer much
                smaller. I used images. But, I like to have your
                designer view on that.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>By tonight i hope to have a general feeling for the
                all site. Stay tune.</div>
              <div><br>
              </div>
              <div>Thanks!</div>
              <div>++</div>
              <div>Corinne</div>
              <div><br>
                <div>
                  <div>On Aug 2, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Hylke Bons &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt;
                    wrote:</div>
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                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks so much for
                        looking into this Corrine!<br>
                        <br>
                        I just had a look at the OpenShift instance. It
                        looks good to me responsiveness-wise. I like the
                        menu behaviour.<br>
                        <br>
                        There are still some minor style issues. If you
                        still have time to look into this that would be
                        great,<br>
                        otherwise I can take a look at these be fore we
                        launch the new style:<br>
                        <br>
                        - Logo is centred on the page, it looks more
                        balanced having it stick to the left.<br>
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                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  Funny, personally and specially on phone I found
                  centred logo looks more balance. i remember seeing
                  Passos's comments on this. He actually wanted it
                  centred too. But I guess it's a mater of taste. I can
                  change. let's see others comments.</div>
                <div><br>
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                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> - The menu icon is a
                        bit hard to see (I've attached a quick svg with
                        a colour change, would be nice if we could use
                        that and have it not change shape)<br>
                      </div>
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                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>I changed the icon with a unicode (triple bar)
                    much easier to see. Pushed all that to my branch.</div>
                  <br>
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                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">- The news headline
                        ("AG 1.0 is out!") is sticking to the right of
                        the page, it would be better if it kept to the
                        right, but still in the middle of the page for
                        large screen setups<br>
                        - The platform icons seem to shift a pixel when
                        you hover them<br>
                      </div>
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                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>nice catch will fix that. it gives a bad
                    flickering effect indeed.</div>
                  <br>
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                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> - There's no page
                        padding when scaling down, this makes the text
                        paragraphs harder to read, because they touch
                        the screen edge<br>
                        - Some padding/spacing issue all-round. This is
                        probably because everything was rebased on
                        Boilerplate.<br>
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                    </div>
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                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  I am actually working on all the other pages. my
                  initial focus was home page.</div>
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                        I'll try to get a local instance running again
                        and help out with these things.<br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </blockquote>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  + 10001</div>
                <div>Together we'll have much power, thanks!</div>
                <div><br>
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                      <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> <br>
                        Thanks!<br>
                        <br>
                        Hylke<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                        On 01/08/2013 06:40, Daniel Bevenius wrote:<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Looks nice!</div>
                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                          <br>
                          <div class="gmail_quote">On 31 July 2013
                            18:57, Bruno Oliveira <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:bruno@abstractj.org" target="_blank">bruno@abstractj.org</a>&gt;</span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Thanks Corinne.
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Just tried and deployed on
                                  OpenShift&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://site-abstractj.rhcloud.com/" target="_blank">http://site-abstractj.rhcloud.com/</a>.
                                  Looks really good, I also tested it
                                  with&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://mattkersley.com/responsive/" target="_blank">http://mattkersley.com/responsive/</a></div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I'll try later on Android, IPhone
                                  and IPad.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Thanks for looking at this.</div>
                              </div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra">
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                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul
                                      31, 2013 at 12:54 PM, Matthias
                                      Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">pretty cool!
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Just tried your branch
                                            and it looks good on my
                                            iPhone 4s and on my Galaxy S
                                            II.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>-Matthias</div>
                                        </div>
                                        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                          <br>
                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                            <div> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013
                                              at 5:45 PM, Corinne Krych
                                              <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:corinnekrych@gmail.com" target="_blank">corinnekrych@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                              wrote:<br>
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                                                  <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hello

                                                    All,
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>We've been
                                                      talking about
                                                      redesigning our <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://aerogear.org/" target="_blank">aerogear.org</a>
                                                      web site. &nbsp;Hylke
                                                      has done a great
                                                      design job. Now,
                                                      we 'just' want to
                                                      make it
                                                      responsive.</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Out of several
                                                      proposals:</div>
                                                    <div>1. use
                                                      bootstrap (current
                                                      version of our
                                                      site) and apply
                                                      our custom design&nbsp;</div>
                                                    <div>2. use topcoat
                                                      css and apply our
                                                      custom design</div>
                                                    <div>3. use HTML5
                                                      boilerplate&nbsp;and
                                                      apply our custom
                                                      design and make it
                                                      responsive</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>I initially
                                                      started with
                                                      option 1, which
                                                      might be overkill
                                                      for a static
                                                      site.&nbsp;</div>
                                                    <div>Tried option 2,
                                                      but here too, it
                                                      seems overkill so
                                                      ended with option
                                                      3.</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Using a blank
                                                      page, I worked on
                                                      Home page
                                                      reapplying Hylke
                                                      css but:</div>
                                                    <div>- removing
                                                      maximun-scale=1.0
                                                      because we want to
                                                      let people zoom if
                                                      they wish,&nbsp;</div>
                                                    <div>- replacing
                                                      'px' unit to use
                                                      'em',&nbsp;</div>
                                                    <div>- centred logo
                                                      images,</div>
                                                    <div>- making sure
                                                      width is right
                                                      otherwise you get
                                                      screw up with
                                                      iPhone rotate</div>
                                                    <div>- adding media
                                                      queries (only 2
                                                      breakpoints for
                                                      now, but need to
                                                      be adjusted with
                                                      devices tests and
                                                      your feedbacks)</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>The main points
                                                      to sort out for UX
                                                      design is the menu
                                                      bar and the
                                                      footer.&nbsp;</div>
                                                    <div>To me, footer
                                                      is too huge, even
                                                      on desktop, could
                                                      we remove news?&nbsp;</div>
                                                    <div>For the menu,
                                                      it looks fine on
                                                      tablets format but
                                                      on phone, it's not
                                                      really accessible.
                                                      So I implemented
                                                      topcoat swipe menu
                                                      using CSS3
                                                      transform. Is it
                                                      UX friendly? wdyt?</div>
                                                    <div><br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>Feedback
                                                      welcome,</div>
                                                    <div>Work in
                                                      progress in&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://github.com/corinnekrych/aerogear.org/tree/AEROGEAR-1285" target="_blank">https://github.com/corinnekrych/aerogear.org/tree/AEROGEAR-1285</a></div>
                                                    <div><br>
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                                                    <div>++</div>
                                                    <span><font color="#888888">
                                                        <div>Corinne</div>
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