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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm a bit late to this, but I'm also a
little curious.<br>
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Are you planning on using SimplePush the way you'd use any data
delivery channel? (e.g. for a given message event, you'd include a
SimplePush remote app wake event?)<br>
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If so, that might not be the more efficient means. <br>
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On 2013/9/19 4:39 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Kris
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<div>You can do the same thing with the other platforms
as with SimplePush, no? Won't it work the same way by
sending a selective send that includes all necessary
info for android, iOS and SimplePush but don't specify
any particular devices and just a category, you then
get a broadcast to all devices of all types for that
category, correct? That is why I think the broadcast
is pointless.</div>
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<div>Your point is to remove for all platforms, or just for
SimplePush ? </div>
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On Sep 14, 2013, at 4:19, Matthias Wessendorf <<a
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Sep 14,
2013 at 9:32 AM, Sebastien Blanc <span
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<div dir="ltr">Yes but again when you
want to do a broadcast to all the
devices types and broadcast is not
anymore available for SPS, does that
mean that we must send 2 messages :
one broadcast for "native" clients and
a "empty" selective send for SPS , not
sure this is effective ? I must be
missing something.</div>
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<div>that's a good point</div>
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<div>It would be two request to the
UnifiedPush Server:</div>
<div>* broadcast for Android/iOS</div>
<div>* 'selective' send for the SimplePush
client</div>
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<div>I guess having the implicit
'broadcast' category does not hurt,
since this (as it is today) allows
sending the broadcast to _all_ platforms
via one request</div>
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<div>I think this does make sense.</div>
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<div>I think (and I had similar thoughts)
that Kris thinks the 'explicit' (JS
client side) registration for the
broadcast category seems odd;</div>
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<div>But now, after some more thoughts, I
think it's a feature and we should keep
it</div>
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Sep 13, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Kris
Borchers <span dir="ltr"><<a
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<div>The reasoning was that
a broadcast can be done
via selective if you just
send to a category and
don't list any specific
endpoints. To do a
broadcast, you
specifically have to
register a broadcast
endpoint but then your
category doesn't have any
meaning so it seems like
more loss than gain IMO.</div>
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On Sep 13, 2013, at
7:11, Lucas Holmquist
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<div>What is the
reasoning behind
this, i think i
missed something<br>
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<div>On Sep 13,
2013, at 3:57
AM, Sebastien
Blanc <<a
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href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Concretely what
does that
means ?
removing
"simple-push"
field from the
broadcast
message ?
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The jira
mention that
we can achieve
the same with
a selective
send but on
the client
side when I
want to send a
broadcast and
being agnostic
from the
receiving
clients I
still want to
use the
(Unified)
broadcast
format. </div>
<div>So my
question is
will
SimplePush
Clients still
receive my
message if I
broadcast it
(and not using
the selective
send) ?</div>
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On Fri, Sep
13, 2013 at
9:37 AM,
Daniel
Bevenius <span
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I agree that
it makes sense
to remove
broadcast now.</div>
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<div>On 13
September 2013
09:35,
Matthias
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<div dir="ltr">Following
up on [1], to
catch a wider
audience, than
JIRA.
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<div>I do
agree that it
feels odd, for
SimplePush.</div>
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<div>-M<br>
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