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i think that is their business logical and if they want to save
something, they should be doing a database trigger or something,
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I agree with Luke here. Potentially this could be some kind of
config file option somewhere if really needed. There could be cases
where having the records is useful, but if you're already in that
mindset you know what you are doing.<br>
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Hylke<br>
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<div>On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Hylke Bons <<a
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_why_ people might want to keep those records, and help
them more appropriately in a nice way. That was the
point I was trying to make. If we can't find any
reasons, delete everything.<br>
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<div>the admin ui is just one example, you
could also use cURL.</div>
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<div> the problem is that the database will
start to get a shit ton of orphaned records
if we don't have an option to cascade a
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<div>Or...we should simply ALWAYS remove all the
things? </div>
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<div>If folks really want to 'safe' data (e.g.
device metadata), they would be requesting that
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<div>On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:26 AM,
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<div>Then can you tell me the
reasons why you'd want to do
this?<br>
If I'm interested in sending
push notifications, why would I
be interested in database table
rows?<br>
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Just trying to figure out what
problem you're actually trying
to address here, before
cluttering the UI with extra
things. :)<br>
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<div>I don't think a
dialog here is a
very elegant
solution. If the
usecase is to
preserve the data
for potential stats,</div>
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<div>not at all - it's
about deleting the
entities from the
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<div> we should
provide a nice way
to view stats about
push notifications,
and not bother
people with an
implementation
detail of the admin
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<div>not about stats at
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like the
proposal, one
question
though: Will
the nuke
[checkbox]
option<br>
provided from
REST API as
well?<br>
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<div>yep :-)
Otherwise I
don't know how
the UI would
get the
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2013 15:16:41
+0100<br>
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> That
sounds good<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri,
Nov 22, 2013
at 3:11 PM,
Lucas
Holmquist <<a
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> ><br>
> > On
Nov 22, 2013,
at 9:09 AM,
Matthias
Wessendorf
<<a
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> >
wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On
Fri, Nov 22,
2013 at 3:05
PM, Lucas
Holmquist <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >>
i guess i'm
think if you
are using the
admin ui and
you delete a
variant,<br>
> >>
the "are you
sure you want
to delete"
dialog could
include a
"remove all<br>
> >>
installations"
checkbox or
something<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> > Ah -
that would be
an interesting
option;<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >
Assuming we
have that
checkbox-thingy...:<br>
> > *
Does clicking
it mean we
really nuke
all that
information?
(or would<br>
> > that
mean they are
moved to a
NUKED_INSTALLATIONS
table)?<br>
> ><br>
> > i
say just NUKE
em, if the
database
person wants
to setup a
trigger on<br>
> >
DELETE then
thats there
responsibility<br>
> ><br>
> > *
Does not
clicking mean
they stay on
that table?
(so that some
admin can<br>
> > do
the manual SQL
fu for
updating FK
references to
kinda
(manually)<br>
> >
"relocate"
them to a
different
variant?<br>
> ><br>
> > yup<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > -M<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >>
On Nov 22,
2013, at 9:03
AM, Matthias
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<<a
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wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>
What do you
mean with both
?<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>
On Fri, Nov
22, 2013 at
2:56 PM, Lucas
Holmquist<br>
> >>
<<a
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> >><br>
>
>>>
is it possible
to do both?<br>
>
>>>
On Nov 22,
2013, at 8:38
AM, Matthias
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<<a
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>>>
wrote:<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>> I
was wondering
if we should
do cascading
deletes for
the device<br>
>
>>>
metadata....<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
So, right now,
when you are
deleting a
variant, all
its
installations<br>
>
>>>
are NOT nuked,
which helps
when you are
interested in
collecting
data....<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
However we
could nuke em,
not sure....<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
Or... should
we move them
into a
"DELETED"
table?<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
Users of the
UnifiedPush
Server might
be interested
in keeping the
data<br>
>
>>>
around, a bit
....<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>> I
am not sure...<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
-Matthias<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>><br>
>
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>>>
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