<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Lucas Holmquist <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>the admin ui is just one example, you could also use cURL.</div><div><br></div><div>
 the problem is that the database will start to get a shit ton of orphaned records if we don&#39;t have an option to cascade a delete</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Or...we should simply ALWAYS remove all the things? </div>
<div><br></div><div>If folks really want to &#39;safe&#39; data (e.g. device metadata), they would be requesting that ? </div><div><br></div><div>-Matthias</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Hylke Bons &lt;<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
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    <div>Then can you tell me the reasons why
      you&#39;d want to do this?<br>
      If I&#39;m interested in sending push notifications, why would I be
      interested in database table rows?<br>
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      Just trying to figure out what problem you&#39;re actually trying to
      address here, before cluttering the UI with extra things. :)<br>
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      Hylke<br>
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      On 22/11/2013 15:04, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM,
            Hylke Bons <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
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                <div>I don&#39;t think a dialog here is a very elegant
                  solution. If the usecase is to preserve the data for
                  potential stats,</div>
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            <div>not at all - it&#39;s about deleting the entities from the
              database - or not</div>
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                <div> we should provide a nice way to view stats about
                  push notifications, and not bother people with an
                  implementation detail of the admin UI.</div>
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            <div>not about stats at all; </div>
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                      On 22/11/2013 14:56, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 22, 2013
                            at 3:52 PM, Karel Piwko <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kpiwko@redhat.com" target="_blank">kpiwko@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I like the
                              proposal, one question though: Will the
                              nuke [checkbox] option<br>
                              provided from REST API as well?<br>
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                            <div>yep :-) Otherwise I don&#39;t know how the
                              UI would get the message to the server</div>
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                                  On Fri, 22 Nov 2013 15:16:41 +0100<br>
                                  Matthias Wessendorf &lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;

                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  &gt; That sounds good<br>
                                  &gt;<br>
                                  &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:11 PM,
                                  Lucas Holmquist &lt;<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
                                  &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:09 AM,
                                  Matthias Wessendorf &lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; wrote:<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 3:05
                                  PM, Lucas Holmquist &lt;<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt; i guess i&#39;m think if you
                                  are using the admin ui and you delete
                                  a variant,<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;  the &quot;are you sure you
                                  want to delete&quot; dialog could include a
                                  &quot;remove all<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt; installations&quot; checkbox
                                  or something<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; Ah - that would be an
                                  interesting option;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; Assuming we have that
                                  checkbox-thingy...:<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; * Does clicking it mean we
                                  really nuke all that information? (or
                                  would<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; that mean they are moved to
                                  a NUKED_INSTALLATIONS table)?<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; i say just NUKE em,  if the
                                  database person wants to setup a
                                  trigger on<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; DELETE then thats there
                                  responsibility<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; * Does not clicking mean
                                  they stay on that table? (so that some
                                  admin can<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; do the manual SQL fu for
                                  updating FK references to kinda
                                  (manually)<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; &quot;relocate&quot; them to a
                                  different variant?<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; yup<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt; -M<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt; On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:03
                                  AM, Matthias Wessendorf &lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt; What do you mean with
                                  both ?<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt; On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at
                                  2:56 PM, Lucas Holmquist<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>&gt;wrote:<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; is it possible to do
                                  both?<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; On Nov 22, 2013, at
                                  8:38 AM, Matthias Wessendorf &lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I was wondering if
                                  we should do cascading deletes for the
                                  device<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; metadata....<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; So, right now, when
                                  you are deleting a variant, all its
                                  installations<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; are NOT nuked, which
                                  helps when you are interested in
                                  collecting data....<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; However we could
                                  nuke em, not sure....<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Or... should we move
                                  them into a &quot;DELETED&quot; table?<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Users of the
                                  UnifiedPush Server might be interested
                                  in keeping the data<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; around, a bit ....<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; I am not sure...<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; -Matthias<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
                                  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; --<br>
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