<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:45 PM, Lucas Holmquist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">i think that is their business logical and if they want to save something, they should be doing a database trigger or something,</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>yep, think of: Google style delete :-) they never really delete any of your emails (I think), they just move them to a different table, if you do the DELETE in gmail</div><div>
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<div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Hylke Bons <<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
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<div>We should probably find out _why_
people might want to keep those records, and help them more
appropriately in a nice way. That was the point I was trying to
make. If we can't find any reasons, delete everything.<br>
<br>
Hylke<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM,
Lucas Holmquist <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>the admin ui is just one example, you could also
use cURL.</div>
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<div>
the problem is that the database will start to get a
shit ton of orphaned records if we don't have an
option to cascade a delete</div>
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<div>Or...we should simply ALWAYS remove all the things? </div>
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<div>If folks really want to 'safe' data (e.g. device
metadata), they would be requesting that ? </div>
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<div>-Matthias</div>
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<div>On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Hylke Bons
<<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div>Then can you tell me the reasons why
you'd want to do this?<br>
If I'm interested in sending push
notifications, why would I be interested
in database table rows?<br>
<br>
Just trying to figure out what problem
you're actually trying to address here,
before cluttering the UI with extra
things. :)<br>
<br>
Hylke<br>
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wrote:<br>
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22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Hylke Bons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>I don't think a dialog here
is a very elegant solution. If
the usecase is to preserve the
data for potential stats,</div>
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<div>not at all - it's about
deleting the entities from the
database - or not</div>
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<div> we should provide a nice
way to view stats about push
notifications, and not bother
people with an implementation
detail of the admin UI.</div>
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<div>not about stats at all; </div>
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Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at
3:52 PM, Karel Piwko
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like the proposal,
one question
though: Will the
nuke [checkbox]
option<br>
provided from REST
API as well?<br>
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<div>yep :-)
Otherwise I don't
know how the UI
would get the
message to the
server</div>
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2013 15:16:41
+0100<br>
Matthias
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<<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> That
sounds good<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri,
Nov 22, 2013
at 3:11 PM,
Lucas
Holmquist <<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
> ><br>
> > On
Nov 22, 2013,
at 9:09 AM,
Matthias
Wessendorf
<<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>><br>
> >
wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > On
Fri, Nov 22,
2013 at 3:05
PM, Lucas
Holmquist <<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> >>
i guess i'm
think if you
are using the
admin ui and
you delete a
variant,<br>
> >>
the "are you
sure you want
to delete"
dialog could
include a
"remove all<br>
> >>
installations"
checkbox or
something<br>
> >><br>
> ><br>
> > Ah -
that would be
an interesting
option;<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >
Assuming we
have that
checkbox-thingy...:<br>
> > *
Does clicking
it mean we
really nuke
all that
information?
(or would<br>
> > that
mean they are
moved to a
NUKED_INSTALLATIONS
table)?<br>
> ><br>
> > i
say just NUKE
em, if the
database
person wants
to setup a
trigger on<br>
> >
DELETE then
thats there
responsibility<br>
> ><br>
> > *
Does not
clicking mean
they stay on
that table?
(so that some
admin can<br>
> > do
the manual SQL
fu for
updating FK
references to
kinda
(manually)<br>
> >
"relocate"
them to a
different
variant?<br>
> ><br>
> > yup<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > -M<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> >><br>
> >>
On Nov 22,
2013, at 9:03
AM, Matthias
Wessendorf
<<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>><br>
> >>
wrote:<br>
> >><br>
> >>
What do you
mean with both
?<br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >><br>
> >>
On Fri, Nov
22, 2013 at
2:56 PM, Lucas
Holmquist<br>
> >>
<<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>>wrote:<br>
> >><br>
>
>>>
is it possible
to do both?<br>
>
>>>
On Nov 22,
2013, at 8:38
AM, Matthias
Wessendorf
<<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>><br>
>
>>>
wrote:<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>> I
was wondering
if we should
do cascading
deletes for
the device<br>
>
>>>
metadata....<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
So, right now,
when you are
deleting a
variant, all
its
installations<br>
>
>>>
are NOT nuked,
which helps
when you are
interested in
collecting
data....<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
However we
could nuke em,
not sure....<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
Or... should
we move them
into a
"DELETED"
table?<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
Users of the
UnifiedPush
Server might
be interested
in keeping the
data<br>
>
>>>
around, a bit
....<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>> I
am not sure...<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>>
-Matthias<br>
>
>>><br>
>
>>><br>
>
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