<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><br><br>Envoyé de mon iPhone</div><div><br>Le Feb 25, 2014 à 14:36, Hylke Bons &lt;<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt; a écrit&nbsp;:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">It's a good start.<br>
      Before designing the actual form, maybe we should take a step back
      and think about why we'd want to send a message?<br>
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      I can think of some cases:<br>
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      1. Testing whether your newly created app variant and push network
      combination work correctly. It's good to have the immediate
      confirmation right after you've created a new application variant
      and have configured a push network. We could have some kind of
      test dialogue, which can be skipped.<br></div></div></blockquote>We can think about this bit most of the time just after creating an app/variant you haven't any devices registered yet.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">
      2. Debugging network issues and general testing. A fixed message
      could do the trick, but people may want to test all kinds of
      content to a variety of devices to see if there are any issues.<br>
      3. Code generation. Other than sending messages, Sebastien's form
      looks like a good way to generate code that the backend can use
      directly. It could be a sort of small visual design tool, to make
      using the UPS even easier.<br></div></div></blockquote>We have already some ideas around this ;) like generating the client code for the registration (iOS/android/js) and also generated curls for sending but that will be the next step.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">
      There may be more?<br>
      Thoughts?<br>
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      Hylke<br>
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      On 25/02/2014 09:06, Sebastien Blanc wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi,
        <div>I started to work on a new "Compose Message" page. The idea
          is that you can add criterias to your message , as you can see
          here on this screenshot :&nbsp;</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">I've also deployed a live version but
          *DICSLAIMER* this is just UI / Mockup work sending will not
          work for now :&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com">http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com</a>&nbsp;
          =&gt; Select an App and you will have a "Copomse Message" link
          on the next page.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Feedback is welcome.</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra">Sebi</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:25 PM,
            Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                    <div class="">On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 12:52 PM,
                      Hylke Bons <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                          <div>Sounds good.<br>
                            Let me know if you need any help with the
                            mockup designs. ;)</div>
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                    <div>Sure, I will ASAP submit a "raw" mockup on
                      which you can work on.</div>
                    <div>What I would like is a dedicated page for the
                      "Compose Push Message" feature.</div>
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                    <div>We wil have a criteria section to choose to who
                      we want to send the message. I really like for
                      instance how Jira do that like here <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://postimg.org/image/5ur2j9wh5/" target="_blank">http://postimg.org/image/5ur2j9wh5/</a>&nbsp;</div>
                    <div>In our case we could have the drop downs for :
                      "Variants", "Device Type", "Alias" and
                      "Categories"</div>
                    <div>And then below w will have a free text area to
                      send a custom value.</div>
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                                  On 23/02/2014 12:08, Sebastien Blanc
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun,
                                        Feb 23, 2014 at 1:04 PM,
                                        Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span>
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi,
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                                            <div>over the weekend I
                                              spoke w/ a friend: His
                                              company is doing some
                                              mobile (iOS/Android) apps
                                              which also support
                                              receiving push
                                              notifications.</div>
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                                            <div>Two examples he told
                                              me. After receiving push
                                              notification:<br>
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                                            <div>* One of their apps
                                              basically fetches the
                                              latest version of a CSV
                                              file, stored on a public
                                              HTTP Server.<br>
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                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>* Another app is used
                                              to tell sales guys new
                                              brochure files (PDF) are
                                              available on a protected
                                              resource of a webserver
                                              (which they _can_ than
                                              download from w/in the
                                              app, if the like to)</div>
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                                            <div>The company build a
                                              simple console (PHP) which
                                              allows them to send new
                                              push messages, when ever
                                              their customers want to.<br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>I showed them our
                                              UnifiedPush Server and its
                                              usage via our AeroDoc
                                              example (iOS / backend).
                                              They really liked the
                                              UnifiedPush Server.
                                              Especially that it does
                                              store all the device
                                              metadata.&nbsp;</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>But since a lot of
                                              their mobile apps don't
                                              have a backend
                                              requirement, they would
                                              still have to use their
                                              own console (which than
                                              connects to UPS) &nbsp;for
                                              submitting all the push
                                              messages they want.<br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div><br>
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                                            <div><br>
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                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>This brings me to
                                              [AGPUSH-38] and I really
                                              think we should implement
                                              that feature. Not only for
                                              sending test messages! If
                                              our UnifiedPush Server
                                              allows its users to simple
                                              send push messages to all
                                              of their mobile apps, it
                                              would make the server even
                                              more attractive.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>I regret a bit that I
                                              was against [AGPUSH-38] in
                                              the beginning, I guess
                                              that's due to my Java
                                              enterprise background,
                                              where you typically find
                                              complex setups, and server
                                              talk to servers :-(</div>
                                            <div> <br>
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                                            <div>Anyways, now I really
                                              think that the UPS has to
                                              have such a 'send push'
                                              facility inside of the
                                              Admin UI :-) I believe
                                              that we could reach way
                                              more potential users with
                                              something like that</div>
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                                        <div>+9001 and I already started
                                          thinking about this for a
                                          while. I will try to submit
                                          some mockups/POCs this week so
                                          we can discuss that and I have
                                          &nbsp;quickly a first working
                                          version on master.</div>
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                                            <div>Any thoughts?</div>
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                                            <div>Greetings,</div>
                                            <div>Matthias&nbsp;</div>
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                                            <div>[AGPUSH-38]&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38</a></div>
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                                                <div>-- <br>
                                                  Matthias Wessendorf <br>
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                                                  blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/</a><br>
                                                  sessions: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf</a><br>
                                                  twitter: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://twitter.com/mwessendorf" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/mwessendorf</a>
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