<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">That list of variants to choose from could potentially be extremely loooooong<br><div><div>On Feb 27, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Hylke Bons &lt;<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
  
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      After some discussion with Sebastien, here's the first iteration
      of the design:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://raw.github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/master/tests/send-message.png">https://raw.github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/master/tests/send-message.png</a><br>
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      It shows a summary at the end of the form for review, as sending
      messages can go very badly if a mistake was made in the form. It
      may look a bit excessive with the different pages, but it's an
      important case with actions that can't be undone.<br>
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      Let me know your thoughts and whether this is at all possible.<br>
      <br>
      Hylke<br>
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      On 26/02/2014 09:15, Sebastien Blanc wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi,
        <div>An update : here the latest screenshot of the current UI :&nbsp;</div>
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          And also now you can test it for real since I deployed a new
          version that manage the sending :&nbsp;&nbsp;:&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com/" target="_blank">http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com</a>&nbsp;
          (admin /123)&nbsp;</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 11:36 AM,
            Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Hello Sebi,
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                <div>that looks really nice!</div>
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                <div>Hylke can you take a look at the first version,
                  from a UX persons view?</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Thanks!</div>
                <div>Matthias<br>
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                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at
                      10:06 AM, Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Hi,
                          <div>I started to work on a new "Compose
                            Message" page. The idea is that you can add
                            criterias to your message , as you can see
                            here on this screenshot :&nbsp;</div>
                          <div><img moz-do-not-send="true" src="http://s17.postimg.org/d6zfd2rqn/compose2.png" alt="compose2" height="420" width="388"><br>
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            <div>&nbsp;</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra">I've also deployed a
                            live version but *DICSLAIMER* this is just
                            UI / Mockup work sending will not work for
                            now :&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com/" target="_blank">http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com</a>&nbsp;
                            =&gt; Select an App and you will have a
                            "Copomse Message" link on the next page.</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra">Feedback is welcome.</div>
                          <div class="gmail_extra">Sebi</div>
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                                  On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:25 PM,
                                  Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at
                                            12:52 PM, Hylke Bons <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                                <div>Sounds good.<br>
                                                  Let me know if you
                                                  need any help with the
                                                  mockup designs. ;)</div>
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                                          <div>Sure, I will ASAP submit
                                            a "raw" mockup on which you
                                            can work on.</div>
                                          <div>What I would like is a
                                            dedicated page for the
                                            "Compose Push Message"
                                            feature.</div>
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                                          <div>We wil have a criteria
                                            section to choose to who we
                                            want to send the message. I
                                            really like for instance how
                                            Jira do that like here <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://postimg.org/image/5ur2j9wh5/" target="_blank">http://postimg.org/image/5ur2j9wh5/</a>&nbsp;</div>
                                          <div>In our case we could have
                                            the drop downs for :
                                            "Variants", "Device Type",
                                            "Alias" and "Categories"</div>
                                          <div>And then below w will
                                            have a free text area to
                                            send a custom value.</div>
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                                                        On 23/02/2014
                                                        12:08, Sebastien
                                                        Blanc wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                          Sun, Feb 23,
                                                          2014 at 1:04
                                                          PM, Matthias
                                                          Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi,

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                                                          <div>over the
                                                          weekend I
                                                          spoke w/ a
                                                          friend: His
                                                          company is
                                                          doing some
                                                          mobile
                                                          (iOS/Android)
                                                          apps which
                                                          also support
                                                          receiving push
                                                          notifications.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
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                                                          <div>Two
                                                          examples he
                                                          told me. After
                                                          receiving push
                                                          notification:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>* One of
                                                          their apps
                                                          basically
                                                          fetches the
                                                          latest version
                                                          of a CSV file,
                                                          stored on a
                                                          public HTTP
                                                          Server.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>* Another
                                                          app is used to
                                                          tell sales
                                                          guys new
                                                          brochure files
                                                          (PDF) are
                                                          available on a
                                                          protected
                                                          resource of a
                                                          webserver
                                                          (which they
                                                          _can_ than
                                                          download from
                                                          w/in the app,
                                                          if the like
                                                          to)</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The
                                                          company build
                                                          a simple
                                                          console (PHP)
                                                          which allows
                                                          them to send
                                                          new push
                                                          messages, when
                                                          ever their
                                                          customers want
                                                          to.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I showed
                                                          them our
                                                          UnifiedPush
                                                          Server and its
                                                          usage via our
                                                          AeroDoc
                                                          example (iOS /
                                                          backend). They
                                                          really liked
                                                          the
                                                          UnifiedPush
                                                          Server.
                                                          Especially
                                                          that it does
                                                          store all the
                                                          device
                                                          metadata.&nbsp;</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>But since
                                                          a lot of their
                                                          mobile apps
                                                          don't have a
                                                          backend
                                                          requirement,
                                                          they would
                                                          still have to
                                                          use their own
                                                          console (which
                                                          than connects
                                                          to UPS) &nbsp;for
                                                          submitting all
                                                          the push
                                                          messages they
                                                          want.<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>This
                                                          brings me to
                                                          [AGPUSH-38]
                                                          and I really
                                                          think we
                                                          should
                                                          implement that
                                                          feature. Not
                                                          only for
                                                          sending test
                                                          messages! If
                                                          our
                                                          UnifiedPush
                                                          Server allows
                                                          its users to
                                                          simple send
                                                          push messages
                                                          to all of
                                                          their mobile
                                                          apps, it would
                                                          make the
                                                          server even
                                                          more
                                                          attractive.</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>I regret
                                                          a bit that I
                                                          was against
                                                          [AGPUSH-38] in
                                                          the beginning,
                                                          I guess that's
                                                          due to my Java
                                                          enterprise
                                                          background,
                                                          where you
                                                          typically find
                                                          complex
                                                          setups, and
                                                          server talk to
                                                          servers :-(</div>
                                                          <div> <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Anyways,
                                                          now I really
                                                          think that the
                                                          UPS has to
                                                          have such a
                                                          'send push'
                                                          facility
                                                          inside of the
                                                          Admin UI :-) I
                                                          believe that
                                                          we could reach
                                                          way more
                                                          potential
                                                          users with
                                                          something like
                                                          that</div>
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                                                          <div>+9001 and
                                                          I already
                                                          started
                                                          thinking about
                                                          this for a
                                                          while. I will
                                                          try to submit
                                                          some
                                                          mockups/POCs
                                                          this week so
                                                          we can discuss
                                                          that and I
                                                          have &nbsp;quickly
                                                          a first
                                                          working
                                                          version on
                                                          master.</div>
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                                                          <div>Any
                                                          thoughts?</div>
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                                                          <div>Greetings,</div>
                                                          <div>Matthias&nbsp;</div>
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                                                          <div>[AGPUSH-38]&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38</a></div>
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                                                          Matthias
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