<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 7:32 PM, Hylke Bons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hey,<br>
<br>
After some discussion with Sebastien, here's the first
iteration of the design:
<a href="https://raw.github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/master/tests/send-message.png" target="_blank">https://raw.github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/master/tests/send-message.png</a><br>
<br>
It shows a summary at the end of the form for review,
as sending messages can go very badly if a mistake was
made in the form. It may look a bit excessive with the
different pages, but it's an important case with
actions that can't be undone.<br>
<br>
Let me know your thoughts and whether this is at all
possible.</div>
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<div>I actually like the simplicity of Sebi's dialog:<br>
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<div>Send to [Everyone]</div>
<div>
Message [your text]</div>
<div><SEND BUTTON></div>
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It's not actually so simple once you want to filter and enter more
than just the message. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I understand, and inculded that in my previous email</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">The defaults are are the same in this design.
It's just a [Next][Message][Next] for the same thing.<br>
<br>
It's also a dialogue to keep consistency with the rest of the UI:
pages for viewing and dialogues for changing/actions. Dialogues keep
the message in context as well (well, when we have hovering dialogue
boxes, I believe there's a JIRA for this).<br>
<br>
Usually I'm the one of being accused of keeping things too simple.
:)</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So, we can't have a simple page for the "compose a push" feature? </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>For sending to a section of users, sure some criteria
comes in for the actual filtering. However I am not really
sure we need such a wizzard. Feels very enterprisy and I
think feels complex.</div>
<div>Did you get a chance to see what others do? E.g. Parse?
Quite simple dialog (one page); works great for them.</div>
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<div>-Matthoas</div>
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On 26/02/2014 09:15, Sebastien Blanc wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div>An update : here the latest screenshot of
the current UI : </div>
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<div><img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhYwpCqCIAA1MJh.png:large" height="335" width="420"><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra"> And also now you can
test it for real since I deployed a new
version that manage the sending : : <a href="http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com/" target="_blank">http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com</a>
(admin /123) </div>
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at 11:36 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hello Sebi,
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<div>that looks really nice!</div>
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<div>Hylke can you take a look at the
first version, from a UX persons view?</div>
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<div>Thanks!</div>
<div>Matthias<br>
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25, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Sebastien
Blanc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
<div>I started to work on a
new "Compose Message" page.
The idea is that you can add
criterias to your message ,
as you can see here on this
screenshot : </div>
<div><img src="http://s17.postimg.org/d6zfd2rqn/compose2.png" alt="compose2" height="420" width="388"><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">I've
also deployed a live version
but *DICSLAIMER* this is
just UI / Mockup work
sending will not work for
now : <a href="http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com" target="_blank">http://newpush-sblanc.rhcloud.com</a>
=> Select an App and you
will have a "Copomse
Message" link on the next
page.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Feedback
is welcome.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Sebi</div>
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On Mon, Feb 24, 2014
at 1:25 PM, Sebastien
Blanc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div>On Mon,
Feb 24, 2014
at 12:52 PM,
Hylke Bons <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Sounds
good.<br>
Let me know if
you need any
help with the
mockup
designs. ;)</div>
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<div>Sure, I
will ASAP
submit a "raw"
mockup on
which you can
work on.</div>
<div>What I
would like is
a dedicated
page for the
"Compose Push
Message"
feature.</div>
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<div>We wil
have a
criteria
section to
choose to who
we want to
send the
message. I
really like
for instance
how Jira do
that like here
<a href="http://postimg.org/image/5ur2j9wh5/" target="_blank">http://postimg.org/image/5ur2j9wh5/</a> </div>
<div>In our
case we could
have the drop
downs for :
"Variants",
"Device Type",
"Alias" and
"Categories"</div>
<div>And then
below w will
have a free
text area to
send a custom
value.</div>
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12:08,
Sebastien
Blanc wrote:<br>
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2014 at 1:04
PM, Matthias
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<div dir="ltr">Hi,
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<div>over the
weekend I
spoke w/ a
friend: His
company is
doing some
mobile
(iOS/Android)
apps which
also support
receiving push
notifications.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Two
examples he
told me. After
receiving push
notification:<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>* One of
their apps
basically
fetches the
latest version
of a CSV file,
stored on a
public HTTP
Server.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>* Another
app is used to
tell sales
guys new
brochure files
(PDF) are
available on a
protected
resource of a
webserver
(which they
_can_ than
download from
w/in the app,
if the like
to)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The
company build
a simple
console (PHP)
which allows
them to send
new push
messages, when
ever their
customers want
to.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I showed
them our
UnifiedPush
Server and its
usage via our
AeroDoc
example (iOS /
backend). They
really liked
the
UnifiedPush
Server.
Especially
that it does
store all the
device
metadata. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>But since
a lot of their
mobile apps
don't have a
backend
requirement,
they would
still have to
use their own
console (which
than connects
to UPS) for
submitting all
the push
messages they
want.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>This
brings me to
[AGPUSH-38]
and I really
think we
should
implement that
feature. Not
only for
sending test
messages! If
our
UnifiedPush
Server allows
its users to
simple send
push messages
to all of
their mobile
apps, it would
make the
server even
more
attractive.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I regret
a bit that I
was against
[AGPUSH-38] in
the beginning,
I guess that's
due to my Java
enterprise
background,
where you
typically find
complex
setups, and
server talk to
servers :-(</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div>Anyways,
now I really
think that the
UPS has to
have such a
'send push'
facility
inside of the
Admin UI :-) I
believe that
we could reach
way more
potential
users with
something like
that</div>
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<div>+9001 and
I already
started
thinking about
this for a
while. I will
try to submit
some
mockups/POCs
this week so
we can discuss
that and I
have quickly
a first
working
version on
master.</div>
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<div>Any
thoughts?</div>
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<div>Greetings,</div>
<div>Matthias </div>
<div><br>
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<div>[AGPUSH-38] <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-38</a></div>
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