<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Hylke Bons <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:hbons@redhat.com" target="_blank">hbons@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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    <div>Hey, <br><div class="">
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      On 26/03/2014 09:44, Sebastien Blanc wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:30 AM,
            Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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                <div>As said before: overall they are really looking
                  very great and modern! I really like them.</div>
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                <div>A few questions on some of the screens:</div>
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                <div>* applications.png</div>
                <div>List (&quot;table&quot;) of all Push Applications:</div>
                <div>- Is there no side bar for this?</div>
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    I left out the sidebar in a couple of screens for time reasons. The
    sidebar when realised will be on every screen just like the header.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>perfect!</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                <div>* application-details-blue.png</div>
                <div>It&#39;s the details of one application, and has
                  overview of all its variants.</div>
                <div>- Is the plan to list all variants on their
                  platform? Instead of having a table? I do like that
                  grouping! Just wondering :-)</div>
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            <div>I also like the grouping but when we will introduce
              paging, it will be paging per groups ? Not sure how UX
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    Yea, it makes much more sense to do variant grouping by platform
    than just having one huge table like we had previously. Paging will
    happen per platform &quot;group&quot;.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>great! I&#39;d don&#39;t see a huge problem here in pagination of the variatns; I doubt that one PushApp has a gazillion different variants</div>
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                <div>- When I click on a certain variant (e.g. the
                  &quot;Demo&quot; variant of the iOS section ), there is no
                  separate page/view for its&#39; details? Like its
                  installations ? I&#39;d really prefer to have a page/view
                  for all the details of a certain variant. Also the
                  code snippets for a variant is missing</div>
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            <div>I also like it this way, all the info needed can fit
              and not sure if we want to navigate to another page jsut
              for the details (For editing yes =&gt; other page).</div>
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    A problem with this was that the Application Details page looked too
    much like the Variant Details page. It&#39;s convenient to have all the
    needed actions and code snippets, for sending notifications and
    registering installations, one a single page. Why do you like having
    a separate Variant Details page?</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ok, I now &quot;understand&quot; the new flow, of the UI.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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            <div>The Code Snippets : Yeah A button/link would be needed</div>
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    This are the &quot;What&#39;s this for?&quot; links. We might want to reconsider
    the name for that.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Now, I open the details of a variant (by clicking on it), and I see the LINK</div><div><br></div><div>Clicking on it will give me a &quot;popup&quot; with the different code-snippet (note: we need Cordova + native), per variant, right ? </div>
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                <div>- Sidebar: is that specific to an application? See
                  notes on &quot;applications.png&quot;</div>
                <div>- The &quot;Notifications&quot; on the sidebar, what&#39;s that? </div>
                <div>- What&#39;s the &quot;gear-wheel&quot; for ? <br>
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    The gear menu will have contextual actions like &quot;Rename&quot; and
    &quot;Delete&quot;. It&#39;s less cluttered than having them as links or icons on
    every row.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>ah!!!  Took a bit to realize that :-) </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                <div>* &quot;dialogs.png&quot;</div>
                <div>- For an application construct, that&#39;s good enough;
                  Creating a variant is a bit more complex (see current
                  UI)</div>
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            <div>I assume that for delete app/variant or reset
              id/secrets we will use the same dialogs  </div>
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                <div>* installations.png</div>
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                  <div>- Is there no side bar for this?</div>
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                <div>- If I understand the view/page correctly, its a
                  list of ALL installations for one PushApplication.
                  However, we should list the variants PER variant (see
                  current UI).  The Navigation path on the bread-crumbs
                  would be &quot;Applications &gt;&gt; Mobile HR &gt;&gt;
                  Demo (iOS) &gt;&gt; Installations (number)&quot; <br>
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            <div>+1 but I think that was also Hylke&#39;s initial idea
               because on the application details screen you see that
              the link to installations is on the  &quot;variant&quot; level. I
              think it was just a glitch in his bread-crumbs.</div>
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    I wasn&#39;t too sure about what we could do here. In some cases it&#39;s
    good to have installations per variant, in others you want to see
    them per application. </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>for now, I think, let&#39;s list them only per variant - feels (for me) a bit more clean</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the reply. I hope we are now all on the same page.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Oh, any chance to get a bit rid of that blue; replacing by a different colour ? :-))</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">We could have both: every installation number
    shown in the group rows will be links to per variant installations.
    the &quot;total&quot; link at the top would link to a table will all the
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                <div>- yeah, that is totally missing today :-))</div>
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                    <div>On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 8:50 PM,
                      Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>&gt;</span>
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                              On Tuesday, March 25, 2014, Hylke Bons
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                                Hello,<br>
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                                <a href="https://github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/tree/master/ups-new-ux" target="_blank">https://github.com/hbons/aerogear-design/tree/master/ups-new-ux</a><br>
                                The above link contains mockups with an
                                updated look and feel.<br>
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                                I&#39;ve tried to consolodate the info that
                                we had on different pages on<br>
                                fewer pages, as a common critique was
                                that the Application Details and<br>
                                Variant Details pages looked alike too
                                much, so I&#39;ve merged them.<br>
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                                On one page I&#39;ve added a sidebar that
                                reflects future features (it&#39;s<br>
                                just for show).<br>
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                                Other notable things are the orange info
                                blocks where we want app<br>
                                developers to take action on information
                                (the device registration and<br>
                                sending notifications in this case).
                                I&#39;ve deliberately made these stand<br>
                                out a bit more as we want people to act
                                on the information. Please note<br>
                                that one row in the variants table shows
                                up expanded in the mockups for<br>
                                illustration purposes. The rows will all
                                be collapsed on first view, so<br>
                                it won&#39;t look as cluttered as you might
                                think at first seeing the mockup.<br>
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                                Let me know what you think and where we
                                should go from here.<br>
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                                Thanks,<br>
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