<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">Like with any dependency....we use it, we own it :-)<div><br><div style=""><div>On Apr 7, 2014, at 8:31 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">JUL it is ;-)<div><br></div><div>unless we are forced to not use JUL ;-)</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Burr Sutter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bsutter@redhat.com" target="_blank">bsutter@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">I can see UPS needing to run on other containers (Tomcat, WF Core, etc) and I was assuming that JBoss Logging could be picked and carried around like other logging frameworks.<div>
<div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><br><div><br><div><div>On Apr 7, 2014, at 3:49 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">Oh, yeah - those are valid concerns.<div><br></div><div>Let's stick to JUL ? </div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:31 AM, Karel Piwko <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kpiwko@redhat.com" target="_blank">kpiwko@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I like JUL because it has no dependencies, stable API (albeit not feature<br>
complete) and no class path clashes.<br>
<br>
If you go with JBoss Logging, what would be the strategy for:<br>
<br>
1/ Running UPS on Server in application platform that does not provide JBoss<br>
Logging?<br>
2/ JBossLogging version conflicts - WF provides version 3.2, UPS needs 3.1+ and<br>
KC needs 3.0+?<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
<br>
Karel<br>
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On Sat, 5 Apr 2014 14:27:52 +0200<br>
Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Hello,<br>
><br>
> right now we are using JUL for logging. That works fine, so far :-)<br>
><br>
> However related projects (e.g. Keycloak / LiveOak) are using JBoss Logging.<br>
> I somewhat feel that it's perhaps not a bad idea if we would use JBoss<br>
> logging as well...<br>
><br>
> I know there are a gazillion different Java logging frameworks out there<br>
> (yikes), but my question is really: keep JUL or go with JBoss-Logging :)<br>
><br>
><br>
> Thanks!<br>
> Matthias<br>
><br>
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