<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 20, 2014, at 9:44 AM, Lukáš Fryč &lt;<a href="mailto:lukas.fryc@gmail.com" class="">lukas.fryc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Clarification: this was meant as UnifiedPushClient extension, rather then SimplePush's one (bad wording)</div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>i think i might still be a no, &nbsp;because of storing messages</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 3:25 PM, Lucas Holmquist <span dir="ltr" class="">&lt;<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com" target="_blank" class="">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">I vote no for this.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think storing messages, for any period of time is bad.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think SimplePush should stay “Simple” and we should follow the spec on this.&nbsp;</div><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 20, 2014, at 8:59 AM, Sebastien Blanc &lt;<a href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">I'm just worried about storing the message, for stuff like privacy, for instance. Let's make a really short TTL or better let's delete the mesage right after it has been retrieved.<div class=""><br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Lukáš Fryč <span dir="ltr" class="">&lt;<a href="mailto:lukas.fryc@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">lukas.fryc@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">Awesome, great to hear that SimplePush will get a native support for a full message content.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As Erik said, in the meantime, we could unify this behavior.</div>I have created the associated issue:&nbsp;<a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-1073" target="_blank" class="">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-1073</a><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Erik Jan de Wit <span dir="ltr" class="">&lt;<a href="mailto:edewit@redhat.com" target="_blank" class="">edewit@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="">Hi Luká<font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san-serif" class=""><span style="line-height:16px" class="">š,</span></font><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san-serif" class=""><span style="line-height:16px" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san-serif" class=""><span style="line-height:16px" class="">I like that idea, because in the end our goal is to unify. And I think that the simple push protocol will be changed in the future to allow for&nbsp;‘normal’ message sending. So we could fallback afterwards.</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san-serif" class=""><span style="line-height:16px" class=""><br class=""></span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san-serif" class=""><span style="line-height:16px" class="">Cheers,</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san-serif" class=""><span style="line-height:16px" class=""><span style="white-space:pre-wrap" class="">        </span>Erik Jan</span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, san-serif" class=""><span style="line-height:16px" class=""><br class=""></span></font><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="">On 20 Oct,2014, at 13:58 , Lukáš Fryč &lt;<a href="mailto:lukas.fryc@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">lukas.fryc@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=""></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hey guys,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'm working on a demo of UPS pushing to iOS, Android, Windows, as well as Firefox OS using our Cordova plugin.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But as you know, with FFOS it is not that simple - since SimplePush protocol allows to transfer just incremental versions, we are not able to deliver any interesting message.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">UnifiedPush Server could be a correct place where we unify and shield our users from this limitation:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">my idea is storing the message on UPS under the SimplePush endpoint URL. Once the message with version reaches the client, he would contact UPS to retrieve this message under a key ( pushEndpoint, version ).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The messages could have default built-in TTL to allow periodic cleanup.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">What do you think?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">~ Lukas</div></div></div></div>
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