<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 3:17 PM, Andres Galante <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:agalante@redhat.com" target="_blank">agalante@redhat.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Can&#39;t we have some kind of aggregator that reads the roadmaps from JIRA and print it on the website?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not sure. Since JIRA is the main tool to manage and plan releases, let&#39;s link straight to it. That&#39;s also the place where users actually would file tickets (e.g. bugs or feature requests)</div><div><br></div><div>-M</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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From: &quot;Daniel Bevenius&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel.bevenius@gmail.com">daniel.bevenius@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;AeroGear Developer Mailing List&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 11:08:31 AM<br>
Subject: Re: [aerogear-dev] AeroGear.org - a first thought on changing our roadmap docs<br>
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&gt; First step: replace existing roadmaps with links to JIRAs, where possible.<br>
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&gt;Next step: re-think the entire roadmaps section. I am currently on that, and it&#39;s not 100% yet clear, what&#39;s best. Once I have more on this, I will share thoughts<br>
Sounds good!<br>
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On 15 December 2014 at 15:05, Matthias Wessendorf &lt; <a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org">matzew@apache.org</a> &gt; wrote:<br>
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Hey,<br>
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that&#39;s what I am currently looking at - by doing the analysis of the site, I noticed that our current roadmap docs just duplicate info from JIRA<br>
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First step: replace existing roadmaps with links to JIRAs, where possible.<br>
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Next step: re-think the entire roadmaps section. I am currently on that, and it&#39;s not 100% yet clear, what&#39;s best. Once I have more on this, I will share thoughts<br>
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:40 PM, Bruno Oliveira &lt; <a href="mailto:bruno@abstractj.org">bruno@abstractj.org</a> &gt; wrote:<br>
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Alright, let&#39;s think about the following scenario. I&#39;m a newcomer, going<br>
<a href="http://aerogear.org" target="_blank">aerogear.org</a> to learn more about AeroGear and want to know what&#39;s planned for the future<br>
releases. Where should I look?<br>
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On 2014-12-15, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
&gt; On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:25 PM, Bruno Oliveira &lt; <a href="mailto:bruno@abstractj.org">bruno@abstractj.org</a> &gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Speaking from the security side of the things, to me is impossible to<br>
&gt; &gt; have a feature driven roadmap, because it&#39;s a cross cutting concern.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; right :-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; looking at [1] I see different types of roadmaps<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1) Project roadmap<br>
&gt; 2) Platform roadmaps (e.g. Android, Cordova, iOS and JS)<br>
&gt; 3) cross cutting concerns (e.g. security)<br>
&gt; 4) specific roadmaps (E.g. UPS/WebPush or even the WebSite roadmap)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; And that&#39;s fine :) For now, I&#39;d really just like to get rid of the pages<br>
&gt; that basically duplicate info, available on JIRA :-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; About removing the roadmap from website, as long as we make it clear<br>
&gt; &gt; por people outside AeroGear, I&#39;m fine.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On 2014-12-15, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Hi team,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; while thinking about restructuring our roadmaps, I was wondering about<br>
&gt; &gt; our<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; existing roadmaps on [1]. Overall I&#39;d like to have the AG roadmaps more<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; feature driven, but that requires some more thoughts/changes?<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; However, here is what I am wondering about...<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Most of our roadmaps we link to from [1], are really just pointing to<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; different JIRAs.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Let&#39;s take one example, UPS:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href="https://aerogear.org/docs/planning/roadmaps/UnifiedPush/" target="_blank">https://aerogear.org/docs/planning/roadmaps/UnifiedPush/</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Basically all info on the above page is present in JIRA (including the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &#39;archived&#39; roadmap of older releases). Since JIRA should be the central<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; tool for planing releases, features and future versions, I think that our<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; roadmap docs are not adding too much value, since they repeat info that<br>
&gt; &gt; is<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; available on a different place (JIRA).<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Also, maintaining the roadmaps is tedious: You make a change on the<br>
&gt; &gt; actual<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; JIRA (e.g. move the date of a release or add a new feature). To keep the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; roadmap up-to-date, you put the same info on the roadmap doc and send a<br>
&gt; &gt; PR.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Can we remove these roadmap docs?<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; For UPS that would mean, that the link on [1] would go against:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:versions-panel" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH?selectedTab=com.atlassian.jira.jira-projects-plugin:versions-panel</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; instead of here:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href="https://aerogear.org/docs/planning/roadmaps/UnifiedPush/" target="_blank">https://aerogear.org/docs/planning/roadmaps/UnifiedPush/</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; -Matthias<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; [1] <a href="https://aerogear.org/docs/planning/" target="_blank">https://aerogear.org/docs/planning/</a><br>
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