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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 02/03/2015 10:45 AM, Sebastien Blanc
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      <div dir="ltr">About Licence of their SDK : <a
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          href="https://developer.amazon.com/appsandservices/support/pml.html">https://developer.amazon.com/appsandservices/support/pml.html</a>
        <div>"<span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px"> </span><span
style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12px">you
            will not (a) incorporate or compile any portion of the
            Program Materials into your own programs or any other
            software, (b) distribute, sub-license or otherwise provide
            any portion of the Program Materials to any third party, or
            (c) modify or create derivative works of the Program
            Materials." </span></div>
        <div>...</div>
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    May actually be a good point.  Their license also explicitly calls
    out that software made with the SDK should be intended for
    distribution in Amazon's App Store.  <br>
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    " You may use Program Materials only in connection with Your
    Products intended for distribution through the Distribution Program,
    unless the documentation for the applicable Program Materials
    authorizes broader use. "<br>
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    I think we might need to summon a lawyer on this one.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 4:35 PM,
          Sebastien Blanc <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                <div class="gmail_quote"><span class="">On Tue, Feb 3,
                    2015 at 4:07 PM, Summers Pittman <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                        href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com"
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                            <div>On 02/03/2015 09:56 AM, Matthias
                              Wessendorf wrote:<br>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb
                                    3, 2015 at 2:31 PM, Sebastien Blanc
                                    <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                    wrote:<br>
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                                      <div dir="ltr">Good Morning all ! 
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                                        <div>As you might know, we are
                                          currently adding Amazon Device
                                          Messaging support to the
                                          UnifiedPush server. </div>
                                        <div>The server side has been
                                          PRed and it's now time to work
                                          on the client SDK.</div>
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                                    <div>once our java-adm is on maven
                                      central, I will take a look at the
                                      PR</div>
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                                        <div>As you probably know, the
                                          amazon devices :  the Kindle
                                          Fire (2nd and third
                                          generation), Fire Phone and
                                          FireTV are running FireOS
                                          which is basically a fork of
                                          Android OS. And since we have
                                          an Android Push SDK I start
                                          looking if we could reuse it.<br>
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                                        <div>First good news, is that
                                          since AGDroid 2.0, things has
                                          been nicely isolated and is
                                          open for extension. But there
                                          is still some refactoring to
                                          do, the "UPS Registration"
                                          flow/logic is still in the
                                          "gcm" package[1]. </div>
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                                    <div>the package name shouldn't be
                                      the smallest concern :-) </div>
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                                        <div>That logic should be moved
                                          one package level higher in a
                                          new Abstract class. </div>
                                        <div>In the end we will have a
                                          "gcm" package and a "adm"
                                          package (or project, see later
                                          in my questions)</div>
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                                    <div>+1</div>
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                                        <div>This way the ADM logic
                                          would be able to reuse that
                                          registration code. I started
                                          to play a bit with this
                                          refactoring here[2],
                                          disclaimer here, I'm not even
                                          sure that this code compiles,
                                          is just to give an idea. </div>
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                                        <div>So before I go further,
                                           some questions (mainly for
                                          our Android Gods ;)  ) : </div>
                                        <div><br>
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                                        <div>- Is this a good idea
                                          (reusing your SDK) ? I think
                                          yes, even if there is some
                                          time and effort needed for
                                          refactoring to make it
                                          completly generic.</div>
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                                    <div>sounds reasonable to me, to
                                      extend it and apply changes on a
                                      separate ADM-PUSH-SDK</div>
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                                        <div>- How do we build / package
                                          / deliver ? </div>
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                                    <div>gradle? or, what does Amazon do
                                      / prefer ? </div>
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                                        <div>We probably want 2 distinct
                                          JAR/aar. We could use profile
                                          in Maven to only package one
                                          feature but that sounds a bit
                                          "messy".</div>
                                        <div>What about having
                                          sub-projects, this way we
                                          would have
                                          aerogear-android-push and then
                                          : aerogear-android-push-gcm
                                          and aerogear-push-gcm.</div>
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                                    <div>Not sure I get that, but do you
                                      mean "aerogear-android-push"</div>
                                    <div>- aerogear-android-push-gcm</div>
                                    <div>- aerogear-android-push-adm</div>
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                                    <div>sounds reasonable</div>
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                          </span> No it isn't.  For starters it will
                          break the 2.0 API and require a 3.0 API
                          release.  <br>
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                                        <div>- The registration flow for
                                          ADM[3] (so device &lt;-&gt;
                                          Amazon's server) is a bit
                                          different thant the GCM one</div>
                                        <div>, it's the same interface
                                          that receive the registration
                                          event and the push
                                          notification events. We have
                                          to check how this fit with the
                                          current architecture of
                                          android-push.</div>
                                        <div><br>
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                                        <div>Other challenge will be
                                          shipping ADM jar, since this
                                          one is on Maven and must be
                                          downloaded manually but that
                                          is for later ;)</div>
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                                    <div>not sure, why do we need to
                                      ship it? what's the license? Why
                                      do I need a manual download from
                                      maven ? Not following here</div>
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                          </span> Amazon's SDK is a giant zip bundle. 
                          We will need to find a way to package it into
                          the local maven repo.  <br>
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                  <div> Yeah it's a nightmare. You can get this ZIP only
                    from their developer's portal. Once unzipped, you
                    have to dig some folder before finding the ADM jar
                    (the only one that we need)</div>
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                        They do publish some things to central, but it
                        looks like that is their AWS APIs but not ADM.</div>
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                  <div>Yep, I checked as well and it's only for AWS
                    stuff :(  </div>
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                                        <div>[1]<a
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href="https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-android-push/blob/master/aerogear-android-push/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/android/unifiedpush/gcm/AeroGearGCMPushRegistrar.java"
                                            target="_blank">https://github.com/aerogear/aerogear-android-push/blob/master/aerogear-android-push/src/main/java/org/jboss/aerogear/android/unifiedpush/gcm/AeroGearGCMPushRegistrar.java</a></div>
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href="https://developer.amazon.com/public/apis/engage/device-messaging/tech-docs/04-integrating-your-app-with-adm"
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