<div dir="ltr">Well the redhat pages have nothing around mobile branding and app design so it is probably worth having SOMETHING. Even if it is just a bunch of standard colors, backgrounds, and styles in xml files in a aar project we can inherit from. I don't think writing tons of code is necessary, just sensible defaults.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Andres Galante <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agalante@redhat.com" target="_blank">agalante@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I don't think we can maintain a hole library. But having a layer of styling over material design might be possible. Let me think about it, I just wonder if its necessary, material design is excellent.</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Daniel Passos <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dpassos@redhat.com" target="_blank">dpassos@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Andres<br><div><br>Somethings like this => <a href="https://github.com/navasmdc/MaterialDesignLibrary" target="_blank">https://github.com/navasmdc/MaterialDesignLibrary</a><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Summers Pittman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Ahhh.<div><br></div><div>There are a few libraries for widgets (especially for material design). There are also some injection libraries for autowiring views to objects in the Activity class.</div><div><br></div><div>Picasso comes to mind for images, butter knife does view injection, and there are too many Material Design libs to count/enumerate. I also don't make a list because I haven't tried enough to have an informed opinion.</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Andres Galante <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agalante@redhat.com" target="_blank">agalante@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">You mention that<span style="font-size:13px"> "there are other VERY powerful libraries which help out in</span><div>this regard." I was wondering which UI libraries we can base ours<br style="font-size:13px"></div><div><span style="font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:13px"><br></span></div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Summers Pittman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I didn't catch what you are asking.</div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Andres Galante <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:agalante@redhat.com" target="_blank">agalante@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Which are the UI libraries though about as base? </div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Summers Pittman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">If you mean implementing some stuff like what is on <a href="http://brand.redhat.com/" target="_blank">http://brand.redhat.com/</a> for websites but for Android I would love it :)<br></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Summers Pittman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>On 03/13/2015 12:22 PM, Andres Galante wrote:<br>
> Summers, do you think that we can build an Aerogear UI based on a library? Like we do with Patternfly and Bootstrap.<br>
</span>If you mean set up a bunch of default styles and some value add<br>
widgets/behaviors sure we can do that.<br>
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> To: <a href="mailto:mobile-internal@redhat.com" target="_blank">mobile-internal@redhat.com</a>, "AeroGear Developer Mailing List" <<a href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 1:09:51 PM<br>
> Subject: [aerogear-dev] AeroGear usage in the DevNexus app report<br>
><br>
> I made the DevNexus[1] app the past two years and have tried to dogfood<br>
> as much of the Android AeroGear client library as I could. Consider this<br>
> a field report of sorts from a experienced user's perspective.<br>
><br>
> # Server Background<br>
> The DevNexus website exposes its registration data as a series of JSON<br>
> documents. It also exposes a custom Google+ authentication endpoint<br>
> used to identify users. This was used by the app in 2014 for backing up<br>
> user's schedules but was not used in 2015. The DevNexus website itself<br>
> is a Spring MVC application and is available on github[2].<br>
><br>
> # App Background 2015<br>
> The 2015 app has custom schedules, a Google Maps view of the venue,<br>
> presentation viewing and discovery, a directory of previous years<br>
> devnexus presentations, and a podcast player with audio from previous<br>
> year's sessions. It uses the AGDroid pipe and store libraries. In 2014<br>
> it also used the auth library but the feature using it was removed. It<br>
> also uses Picasso for image management.<br>
><br>
> # AGPipe usage review<br>
> The pipe library and its GSON marshalling are very nice and very easy.<br>
> Those were generally wrapped in a android SyncAdapter and fired at<br>
> regular intervals. Pipe's callback mechanism poses some problems<br>
> however. Because Android aggressively cleans up objects the code needed<br>
> to provide a lock that waited for the callbacks to finish. Without the<br>
> lock the code might call an object which has left Android's active state<br>
> and this causes an error. Over all it is still a very good way to<br>
> handle http networking in Android.<br>
><br>
> #AGAuth usage review<br>
> The auth module was used in the 2014 application but not in the 2015<br>
> application. The code however remains and is functional. I created two<br>
> custom AuthenticationModule objects. One interacts with the Android<br>
> Account Manager system to get a session token from Google Plus. The<br>
> other attaches a cookie to http requests and handles auth failures. In<br>
> general the architecture is sound, but it is a bit of a hack to get<br>
> around the fact that last year we did not have the authz library<br>
> finished at this point which has a better architecture for this type of<br>
> behavior.<br>
><br>
> #AGStore usage review<br>
> The store library was wrapped in a content provider. In Android the<br>
> content provider API provides a abstracted way to exposed data to<br>
> activities, services, etc while having the data management and lifecycle<br>
> happen in a controlled, centralized manner. AG Store made handling<br>
> large JSON serializable objects pretty trivial and most of my issues<br>
> were around the fact that the JSON coming from the DevNexus server has<br>
> some weird architectures. Additionally, the query mechanism doesn't let<br>
> you query properties of collections of objects. This will need to be<br>
> addressed at some point.<br>
><br>
> #Things AeroGear didn't do that would have been nice<br>
> I wanted to have offline support/file management for the podcasting<br>
> system, but there isn't a easy library for doing that (which I found in<br>
> my brief time looking) and we don't have a good solution for that yet<br>
> either. Additionally wrapping the Stores in Content providers was very<br>
> labor intensive. There are many projects to automate the various<br>
> Android patterns around Content Providers which we may be able to borrow<br>
> to make this easier.<br>
><br>
> Additionally Aerogear provides nothing for the Android UI. I think that<br>
> this is out of scope for our project but it is something to keep in<br>
> mind. However there are other VERY powerful libraries which help out in<br>
> this regard.<br>
><br>
><br>
> #Conclusion<br>
> AeroGear Android doesn't suck to use and provided real value to me. I<br>
> feel like it is stable and well built especially as of 2.0. Of course<br>
> I'm biased. If we have a good offline story we will enhance what is<br>
> already a strong service and data connection to Android users.<br>
><br>
> 1. <a href="https://github.com/secondsun/devnexus-android-2015" target="_blank">https://github.com/secondsun/devnexus-android-2015</a><br>
> 2. <a href="https://github.com/devnexus/devnexus-site" target="_blank">https://github.com/devnexus/devnexus-site</a><br>
><br>
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