<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br><br>Envoyé de mon iPhone</div><div><br>Le 22 avr. 2015 à 17:36, Summers Pittman <<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com">supittma@redhat.com</a>> a écrit :<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Erik Jan de Wit <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:edewit@redhat.com" target="_blank">edewit@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">So when I think IoT, I would think one of the challenges would be that<br>
you have a lot of things. So what would be useful would be a way to<br>
discover these devices on the network maybe?<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>What type of network? </div><div><br></div><div>I know with TCP/IP there are some utilities for finding things on your local subnet. There are also things wifi direct does but I am not familiar with them.</div><div><br></div><div>What type of protocol do the iBeacon family of devices use over BLE?</div></div></div></div></div></blockquote>I think beacons use Bluetooth and thus it's discovery facilities <br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:03 PM, Burr Sutter <<a href="mailto:bsutter@redhat.com">bsutter@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:50 AM, Summers Pittman <<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com">supittma@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Burr Sutter <<a href="mailto:bsutter@redhat.com">bsutter@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> We already have ActiveMQ, a message broker that will deal with things like<br>
>> “durable subscriptions”, holding messages until the subscriber wakes up and<br>
>> acknowledges receipt.<br>
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>> There is also Mosca as a Node.js-based MQTT focused message broker.<br>
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>> There will be a wide spectrum of Things - from most distributed edge<br>
>> sensors with energy harvesting (smart dust) to robust “gateway” servers<br>
>> that look a lot like your typical datacenter server today. It is currently<br>
>> unclear to me which of the application protocols will “win”. At this<br>
>> moment, MQTT is a winner (great support from numerous vendors) and I feel<br>
>> that CoAP will be a winner as well.<br>
>> AMQP or DDS may win on the beefier gateways but not so much edge<br>
>> intelligent things.<br>
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> MQTT seems to work pretty OK on Android (last I checked).<br>
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> What type of messaging APIs would be useful on mobile hosts? I<br>
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> I am not sure…lots of folks here to provide some insights :-)<br>
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> Does an IOT webapp even make sense? (There is probably something to be said<br>
> for ChromeOS apps)<br>
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> If the Thing is beefy enough to run a web browser then I consider it to be a<br>
> mobile use case, less an IoT use case scenario.<br>
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>> On Apr 21, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Summers Pittman <<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com">supittma@redhat.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <<a href="mailto:matzew@apache.org">matzew@apache.org</a>><br>
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>>> more something like a unified messanger platform, where we have real<br>
>>> messaging hooks/adapters (client/server) for protocols like AMQP, MQTT, XMPP<br>
>>> etc while having support for push notifications as well.<br>
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>> We could probably extend the Push API. I mean it already does half the<br>
>> work for us ;)<br>
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>>> That would be nice to have, at some point<br>
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>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Luke Holmquist <<a href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com">lholmqui@redhat.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
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>>>> like Notifier?<br>
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>>>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 10:02 AM, Summers Pittman <<a href="mailto:supittma@redhat.com">supittma@redhat.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
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>>>>> So IoT is getting a lot of attention within the company (or at least<br>
>>>>> within my monkeysphere). From the demo project I've noticed that a lot of<br>
>>>>> the work is in messaging and message handling. What do you guys think about<br>
>>>>> exploring this space more? How does it / can it /should it fit into our<br>
>>>>> roadmap?<br>
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