<br><br>On Monday, July 27, 2015, Corinne Krych <<a href="mailto:corinnekrych@gmail.com">corinnekrych@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 July 2015 at 09:46, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','matzew@apache.org');" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Summers Pittman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','supittma@redhat.com');" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 5:24 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','matzew@apache.org');" target="_blank">matzew@apache.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">sorry for the late response ;-)<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:51 PM, Summers Pittman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','supittma@redhat.com');" target="_blank">supittma@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></span><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">So good news,<div><br></div><div>Topic support for GCM is trivial to implement. In fact after 20 minutes I have most of the work done in the Android library. The behavior of topics matches the behavior of categories. I would like to propose some enhancements.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>yay</div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>1) Changing categories/topics currently requires the application to unregister and reregister on UPS. I would like to add a subscribe and unsubscibe method to the pushRegistrar interface which will subscribe and unsubscribe the device from topics.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Ok, makes sense. Actually I like the idea. Should this be done on the other SDKs too? If so... does it make sense to change the RESTful endpoint to? e.g. do a PUT to update the device metadata?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>So strictly speaking we don't need to have GCM 3 Android register its categories with UPS. Google can handle those.</div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div>yeah, but we need the info on the UPS for a bunch of reasons... (e.g. only 1m devices per topic allowed).</div><div>I think this is very easy to translate to our existing categories... </div><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>How are we handling compatibility? </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>What do you mean here? </div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>Would it be weird if 1.2 of UPS requires ADroid push 3.0?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Well, I do not think this is a problem. the 1.1.0 also requires AGDroid2, due to analytic support.</div><div>Let's release note it, and be good. I think</div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>I recall we kinda had this talk before. See: <a href="https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-1399" target="_blank">https://issues.jboss.org/browse/AGPUSH-1399</a></div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>2) All Message listeners receive messages from all topics the device is subscribed to. I would like to extend registrar manager to be able to attach messages handlers per topic as well as globally.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Due to the nature of the Android layer around GCM 3, this is specific to Android only, right ? </div></div></div></div></blockquote></span><div>I don't know enough about iOS, sorry :( </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Ok, let me ask different: This is something done only on GCM3's topics, right ? </div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Yep it's GCM3 specific.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>perhaps for iOS we can send the info which category was used. And on the client it might be nice to have same: listener per topic/category?</div><div><br></div><div>But on iOS at the same time this might just add extra complexity, since there are less decent APIs to stick the finger deep into the notification delivery... hrm..</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div>There is an iOS client to bring GCM / APN</div><div><a href="https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/ios/client" target="_blank">https://developers.google.com/cloud-messaging/ios/client</a><br></div><div>Not sure if it's worth investigating further the iOS side of GCM3 topics as this feature seems to me very close to our UPS categories, which we already have implemented ahead of time.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I am also not sure if we should use GCM for iOS, atm, but more do to the fact that iOS on UPS than would need both: GCM and APNs setup...<div><br></div><div>Technically our categories are indeed close to their topics. The real benefit regarding topics is: You send just one small request to GCM and it figures out the effected devices. For categories we do that ourselves, and we end up sending a bunch of larger requests to GCM</div><div><br></div><div>IMO using GCM topics for Android will give us a boost for message delivery! However, <span></span>Google mentions some latency for Topics on their doc, but my guess is they will be pretty fast.<br><div><br><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><br></div><div>+1 on this. Same reasoning like Erik Jan here :) </div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>This are both simple, easy changes which shouldn't be a lot of work and will really improve the push experience in Agdroid 3.0.</div><div><br></div><div>wdyt?</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>bring it on :)</div><span><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><span><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Summers</div></font></span></div>
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