<html>
  <head>
    <meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
      http-equiv="Content-Type">
  </head>
  <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/1/2015 12:02 PM, Luke Holmquist
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CALD3Fd2=22ioL7k36MUqBFN8=6-aWc-fx125_Rz_Gnr4rHB6yw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 6:59 PM, JR
            Conlin <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:jrconlin@gmail.com" target="_blank">jrconlin@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
            wrote:<br>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                <div>+4<br>
                  <br>
                  (sorry, just had some fun with a bounding issue, and
                  felt like sharing.)<br>
                  <br>
                  Just to let y'all know, we're going to be running
                  SimplePush for a while, mostly for older devices. One
                  thing we discovered is that some clients may have a
                  LARGE number of old channels registered and sending
                  them as part of the Hello is a waste. (Our server
                  doesn't pay attention to them.) Newer clients may have
                  an interim fix that blanks the clientIDs:[] record.)
                  Aside from that, we're definitely not going to be
                  pushing any changes that should impact your library.<br>
                  <br>
                  We've not stood up a production WebPush server, partly
                  because the data encryption portion of the standard is
                  still under discussion. For what it's worth, there are
                  also a few other discussion points that have yet to be
                  finalized (e.g. should developers register with
                  servers, should clients specify channels like they did
                  for SimplePush, etc.) but the data bit is the biggest
                  obstacle.<br>
                </div>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>i see that PushAPI is enabled in FF42,  and i've
              successfully gotten notifications with a test i did,  what
              kind of server are you using then?  i noticed that in
              the"dom.push.serverURL" is <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="wss://">wss://</a><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="http://push.services.mozilla.com/">push.services.mozilla.com/</a></div>
          </div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    The server we're using is still "simplepush". There's some tweaks
    we've done in prep for WebPush, but it's not running as an HTTP2
    service.<br>
    <br>
    For the more python inclined, here's a pointer to the source:<br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/mozilla-services/autopush/">https://github.com/mozilla-services/autopush/</a><br>
    <br>
    (Some of you may note that this is python and not Go. Turns out that
    python currently has more optimal libraries for doing this at larger
    scale. As you happy Java folk know, sometimes good things come well
    aged.)<br>
    <br>
    Eventually WebPush will come out with mandatory data encryption and
    HTTP2 connections. Google's WebPush kinda/sorta does that now,
    except they bury the client side into GCM and expose a portion of
    the server, but it serves as an example of what's to come. Microsoft
    has also noted that they'll be supporting WebPush eventually,
    although they've expressed different concerns they'd like to have
    addressed. Apple, is Apple, and if they release their version, we
    hope that it follows the spec. <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CALD3Fd2=22ioL7k36MUqBFN8=6-aWc-fx125_Rz_Gnr4rHB6yw@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">
        <div class="gmail_extra">
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div> </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
                <div> <br>
                  As always, thanks so much for the continuing support.
                  <br>
                  <div>
                    <div class="h5"> <br>
                      <br>
                      On 8/31/2015 12:45 PM, Idel Pivnitskiy wrote:<br>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <div class="h5">
                    <blockquote type="cite">
                      <div dir="ltr">+1</div>
                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <div dir="ltr">
                              <div>
                                <div dir="ltr">
                                  <div>
                                    <div dir="ltr">Best regards,
                                      <div>Idel Pivnitskiy</div>
                                      <div>--<br>
                                        <div>E-mail: <a
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                                            href="mailto:Idel.Pivnitskiy@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Idel.Pivnitskiy@gmail.com">Idel.Pivnitskiy@gmail.com</a></a></div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div>Twitter: <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="https://twitter.com/idelpivnitskiy"
                                          target="_blank">@idelpivnitskiy</a></div>
                                      <div>GitHub: <a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="https://github.com/idelpivnitskiy"
                                          target="_blank">@idelpivnitskiy</a></div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at
                          7:27 PM, Daniel Bevenius <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:daniel.bevenius@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:daniel.bevenius@gmail.com">daniel.bevenius@gmail.com</a></a>&gt;</span>
                          wrote:<br>
                          <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                            style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">+1

                            <div>
                              <div><br>
                                <br>
                                måndag 31 augusti 2015 skrev Sebastien
                                Blanc &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:scm.blanc@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">scm.blanc@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br>
                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                  style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                  <div dir="ltr">+1</div>
                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug
                                      31, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Luke
                                      Holmquist <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com"
                                          target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:lholmqui@redhat.com">lholmqui@redhat.com</a></a>&gt;</span>
                                      wrote:<br>
                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                        style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                        <div dir="ltr">so now that
                                          WebPush is going to take over
                                          SimplePush, i'm thinking of
                                          closing the related JIRA's
                                          that we have open for simple
                                          push in the AG-JS instance.
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Not that we've really
                                            done any work on it lately,
                                             but it would be good to
                                            clean this up a little.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Thoughts?</div>
                                          <span><font color="#888888">
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div>-Luke</div>
                                            </font></span></div>
                                        <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                        aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev"
                                          rel="noreferrer"
                                          target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                                      </blockquote>
                                    </div>
                                    <br>
                                  </div>
                                </blockquote>
                              </div>
                            </div>
                            <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                            aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org"
                              target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev"
                              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
                          </blockquote>
                        </div>
                        <br>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      <fieldset></fieldset>
                      <br>
                      <pre>_______________________________________________
aerogear-dev mailing list
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org" target="_blank">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a></pre>
                    </blockquote>
                    <br>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
              <br>
              _______________________________________________<br>
              aerogear-dev mailing list<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a><br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev"
                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a><br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
      <br>
      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
aerogear-dev mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org">aerogear-dev@lists.jboss.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev">https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/aerogear-dev</a></pre>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
  </body>
</html>