<div dir="ltr">Hi All,<div><br></div><div>I am meeting with OSAS (the Open Source and Standards group) on Monday to discuss our Open Source strategy and plans and where OSAS might be able to assist.</div><div><br></div><div>In this meeting I would like to be to give them a definitive answer on where the future of our community lies.</div><div><br></div><div>To that end, I would like to ask y'all to take 30 seconds to answer this one question poll - <a href="https://goo.gl/forms/k5GsxMbeu2AY632P2">https://goo.gl/forms/k5GsxMbeu2AY632P2</a> </div><div><br></div><div>The poll will remain open for <b>the next 24 hours.</b></div><div><b><br></b></div><div>Please take the time to cast your vote in this democratic process :-)</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>John.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font color="#999999">--</font></div><div><div style="font-size:small"><font color="#999999">John Frizelle</font></div><div style="font-size:small"><font color="#999999">Chief Architect, Red Hat Mobile<br></font><span style="font-family:Helvetica,Verdana,sans-serif"><font color="#999999">Consulting Engineer</font></span><font color="#999999"><br><br></font><div><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(153,153,153)">mobile:</span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(153,153,153)"> </span><span style="font-size:12.8000001907349px;color:rgb(153,153,153)"><font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><a href="tel://+353872901644" target="_blank">+353 87 290 1644</a></b></font></span><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153);font-size:12.8000001907349px">twitter:</span><b style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(153,153,153);font-size:12.8000001907349px"> @johnfriz</b><br></div><font color="#999999" style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"></font><div><font color="#999999">skype: <font face="Tahoma, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>john_frizelle</b></font></font></div><div><span style="color:rgb(153,153,153);font-size:12.8000001907349px">mail: </span><font color="#999999" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><b><a href="mailto:jfrizell@redhat.com" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8000001907349px" target="_blank">jfrizell@redhat.com</a></b></font></div><div><font color="#999999" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></font></div><div><br></div><div><img src="cid:1deff70600823b9ebf187fa9e94df6ff10966d4e@zimbra"><font color="#999999" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8000001907349px"><br></font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 30 November 2017 at 11:36, Wei Li <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:weil@redhat.com" target="_blank">weil@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">+1 on Dave's idea to move mobile.next work to the AG community. I would also add that:<div><br></div><div>* Rethink/Rebrand the objective of the AG project. I think it should be something that is close to what we have for mobile.next</div><div>* In the meantime, make it clear that the FH community will still be maintained, but it will only cover for the existing RHMAP projects.</div><div><br></div><div>Hopefully this will avoid future confusing around which community is for what purpose. It will also allow us to continue support the AG community that (I think) have more community users than FH.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 9:49 AM, David Martin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:davmarti@redhat.com" target="_blank">davmarti@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>TLDR; Let's do all Mobile.next()/5.x development as the Aerogear community</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I would see the FeedHenry community being strongly linked to RHMAP (Red Hat Mobile App Platform). There are large parts of that community that are tied into having access to a an RHMAP cluster e.g. SDKs & templates (There are some exceptions, which I'll call out later). The RHMAP MBaaS is available on github, but it is not very useful without an RHMAP Core. The RHMAP Core is only available via a RH subscription.</div><div><br></div><div>I would NOT see the Aerogear community as being strongly tied to RHMAP. The 2 main Aerogear projects are Unified Push Server & Digger (Build Farm). Both of these are standalone services that have been developed in an open manner from their inception.</div><div>See Ger's points for more about what the Aerogear community is doing well.</div><div><br></div><div>Building the Aerogear community as the upstream for mobile in Red Hat would draw a line between what's RHMAP 3.x/4.x and the future (5.x).</div><div><br></div><div>Steps from here:</div><div>* move the fh-sync-server project into the Aerogear community as the 'Aerogear Data Sync Service'</div><div>* move mobile.next()/5.x collateral (that's still relevant after the POC) to the Aerogear community</div><div>* progress development of mobile.next()/5.x as the Aerogear community</div><div>* update <a href="https://aerogear.org" target="_blank">https://aerogear.org</a></div><div>** update UPS documentation (it reference OpenShift 2! There's been great work done on updating UPS for decoupling keycloak & running on OpenShift 3 via APB)</div>** add Aerogear Data Sync Service documentation<br class="m_1501076943008385255m_6585176827402017752gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">** add Aerogear Digger/Build Farm documentation<div>** add Aerogear mobile.next() (name TBD) documentation</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I'm sure there's things I've missed, and would welcome other peoples thoughts on this idea.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_1501076943008385255h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 November 2017 at 15:25, Gerard Ryan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gryan@redhat.com" target="_blank">gryan@redhat.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>Ali Ok <<a href="mailto:aliok@redhat.com" target="_blank">aliok@redhat.com</a>> writes:<br>
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> I won't go and do a full assessment of both communities/organizations but<br>
> if we're doing this, we should definitely move these things from AeroGear<br>
> to FeedHenry side and make sure they don't break in the future at least the<br>
> current AeroGear things where things are working nicely:<br>
> * Stable processes (release, JIRA workflow, etc.)<br>
> * Open source first mentality (100% community releases, etc.)<br>
> * Somewhat active non Red Hat community members<br>
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</span>So at least the last point there (and maybe the second point also?)<br>
would in my opinion be reasons to move everything *to* the AeroGear<br>
community, rather than *from* it to the FeedHenry community.<br>
<br>
I don't think it makes a huge difference either way for those of us who<br>
work for Red Hat, since we're involved in / aware of both communities as<br>
they are; but it could be potentially disruptive to the more established<br>
AeroGear open source community.<br>
<br>
Since I'm not really involved in that community, I'd like to hear what<br>
matzew or other long-time members of that community think. Maybe it's no<br>
big deal, but I think it's worth thinking about!<br>
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