<div><div>someone >could< argue that users should just use constraints at getter methods, if they really want to ensure a valid state at every access of a property.</div><div>without @ValidateOnCall that's an issue in case of implicit grouping - there you only have methods...</div>
<div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div>gerhard</div></div><div><br></div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/11/21 Emmanuel Bernard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emmanuel@hibernate.org" target="_blank">emmanuel@hibernate.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Implicit grouping?<div><div class="h5"><br><br>On 21 nov. 2012, at 20:32, Gerhard Petracek <<a href="mailto:gerhard.petracek@gmail.com" target="_blank">gerhard.petracek@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br></div></div></div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>hi @ all,</div><div><br></div><div>i agree with emmanuel (as mentioned earlier).</div><div><br></div><div>@emmanuel:</div><div>thx for writing the summary!</div>
<div><br></div><div>short addition:</div><div>we also have to think about implicit grouping here.</div>
<div><br></div><div>regards,</div><div>gerhard</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2012/11/21 Emmanuel Bernard <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:emmanuel@hibernate.org" target="_blank">emmanuel@hibernate.org</a>></span><br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I tried to summarize all the discussions at <a href="http://beanvalidation.org/proposals/BVAL-327/" target="_blank">http://beanvalidation.org/proposals/BVAL-327/</a><br>
<br>
While I wish we could go the easy way and consider getters as methods, I<br>
really really fear that we would create a time bomb.<br>
<br>
I also polled people at Devoxx trying to explain the pros and cons<br>
and an overwhelming majority of people wanted to not consider getters<br>
as regular constrained methods.<br>
<span><font color="#888888"><br>
Emmanuel<br>
</font></span><div><div><br>
On Tue 2012-10-23 18:19, Emmanuel Bernard wrote:<br>
> For method validation, we have so far managed to get away with<br>
> requiring an annotation based metadata to direct how method validation<br>
> behaves.<br>
><br>
> One question that popped up during the recent write up is whether or not<br>
> getters should be considered regular methods and thus be intercepted and<br>
> validation by CDI or AspectJ interceptors.<br>
><br>
> I have my own ideas, but I'd like to get your opinion on the subject.<br>
><br>
> Emmanuel<br>
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